Well let's see what's Lilley like when he's had another 16 years in the game. JJB has worked under a lot of very good coaches. It's not as though he's the Head coach he's the assistant.

It was claimed that in the later stages in the golden generation era that the group leaders used go do the coaching.

Personally i think the club will always choose recognised ex first team players over other coaches in our system.I have made no secret of the fact that I rate Butterill and it seems others do on this forum but i don't think he fits in with the clubs ethos. He's never played SL and he's never played for Leeds so those 2 criteria alone would see he would never get promoted to be part of the first team coaching squad. My guess is that he's accepting of that and happy to continue in his current role or he recognises thats he never going to get a gig in the first team and leaves in the none too distant future?. We don't know but when you speak to people at games or parents this lads rated as a coach, maybe he's a year or two away and the club recognise this hence other assistants are filling the void? Rugbys a funny game and its who you know that rings true and ex players all seem to get first dibs on vacancies who's to say thats right or thats wrong?. I like JJB i think he will do a good job so i think we should trust Kev and Agars judgment on this one.

He has been a good coach at junior level, he has a lot of knowledge, he loves the club and will bring IMO a different voice to the dressing rooms. He isn’t shy he isn’t a yes man he will say what he feels I think it’s a positive for the team. On the whole quote happy at the moment time will tell, not sure it’s a winning squad or coaching set up but it’s for me a step in the right direction

Yes but isn't she busy doing coronation street. "Surely" can't take another part time seriously.

I'm pleased for JJB, and glad he's staying within the club.

However, I'm massively underwhelmed by this as assistant coach, in fact by the coaching setup. In a salary cap world, you can improve the output of your squad by having a good coaching group, to get the extra 10% from the players. This seems like it's going the other direction

No it wasn't. It was said that Sinfield and Peacock did the daily team plan coaching. Specific individuals.

There is usually a "threshold of credibility" within a culture. Think of Alex Ferguson in soccer - never the best player, but he'd done enough for other professional players to take him seriously.

People don't generally like taking instruction from others who haven't walked the same path as them.

I'm not sure Agar has been given enough credit so far; he took a floundering side and pointed them back in the right direction overall. They have made lots of tough calls on players and pushed to renew the squad.

Looking at what Agar and JJB bring, they might complement quite well.

Whether the club is looking too nostalgically at the past and failing to embrace the future I guess we'll find out over the next few months. From what I've heard from Agar he does know what he's doing.

Oh I bow to superior knowledge.

100% get that and i agree fully with what you are saying to an extent that is what is going on but at the same time if you don't try you don't know. We just need to give the coaches our fully support and judge it further down the track .Good post

I think JJB will turn out to be a very good appointment.

I'm sure I read somewhere that JP will have some involment with coaching.