Rex Terp continues to get a mention alongside Vickery and the likes of Mark Wilkes. He actually played for St George for a few years, including a Grand Final off the bench. Mark Wilkes would have struggled to get a game in the Queensland Cup.

Hall didn't miss the tackle. I could explain again exactly what happened but I fear you will only choose to ignore it .... again ..... so no point really. If anyone missed the tackle that led to the first Hull try it was Moon.

Hull had four men on Hall and Moon, I don't think they had a chance to stop that break, the last play the ball Leeds had 3 defenders marking two on the short side and the rest of the team made little to no effort to slide across.

Yep, still wasn't as bad as the light finger tickling by JJB for the Crooks try from the now obligatory Sinfield cross field invite.

I know Tony, although strictly speaking it was on Burrow and Hall once Heremaia got on the outside of Moon and I explained all that on the previous page (sorry, it's now page 7) in the post Juan was replying to but he's chosen to ignore what Hall was expected to do and did in that situation. Thanks all the same.

Just read your post on page 7, I have to agree



changing the subject, when was the last time we lost 4 in a row?

Quote: Tony Soprano "Just read your post on page 7, I have to agree'" Perhaps Juan can explain what Hall was supposed to do any different to what he did in that situation and why the winger was left to face such an overlap in numbers and so early in the game before fatigue can be factored in as any part of the excuse. As I said earlier Moon gets caught looking in (ball watching) as the defence is sliding out then he overspeeds in cover allowing McDonnell to easily cut back and beat him on his inside shoulder after Hall had done his job of covering the 4th tackle kick and then forcing the man back inside while preventing the ball getting out wide to the overlap. Quote: Tony Soprano "changing the subject, when was the last time we lost 4 in a row?'" Posted two days ago here : viewtopic.php?f=17&t=500492&tsmp=1370271204&start=484 You'll note the similarity between that set of fixtures in 2006 and the ones we've just had and who is up next.

Quote: Tony Soprano "Just read your post on page 7, I have to agree'" Perhaps Juan can explain what Hall was supposed to do any different to what he did in that situation and why the winger was left to face such an overlap in numbers and so early in the game before fatigue can be factored in as any part of the excuse. As I said earlier Moon gets caught looking in (ball watching) as the defence is sliding out then he overspeeds in cover allowing McDonnell to easily cut back and beat him on his inside shoulder after Hall had done his job of covering the 4th tackle kick and then forcing the man back inside while preventing the ball getting out wide to the overlap. Quote: Tony Soprano "changing the subject, when was the last time we lost 4 in a row?'" Posted two days ago here : viewtopic.php?f=17&t=500492&tsmp=1370271204&start=484 You'll note the similarity between that set of fixtures in 2006 and the ones we've just had and who is up next.

Hall was also left exposed another occasion in the 1st half and if McDonnell had dummied first then given it to Lineham instead of Hall reading the pass, then it could have been worse

At the PTB that led to Hull's first try, Hall was laying deep, perhaps to cover any kick that Hull may make. As the ball was moved wide Hall join the line late and seeing an overlap coming up decided to come out of the line and take out their centre man and ball as he received thhe ball. He was just a fraction late in, perhaps as he was late joining the line, and was only able to touch the centre with an outstretched hand and was easily brushed off as the centre moved inside him on his long run down the field. An in-form Hall would have taken man and ball in a crash tackle. But as I say his timing is off at present and he missed the tackle. Not fully his fault but his miss was a big contribution.

With regard to Moon there was just a hint of obstruction as contact was made with a Hull player which allowed their man to take an inside line and wrong foot several Leeds players.

Look at the VT or the match highlights on the Leeds website.

I don't think there's any need for me to review the incident again as I doubt it will have altered from when I did so for the detailed post of the try I made on page 7 of this thread.

If I went wrong with that description you should perhaps take this opportunity to say so.

Seems to me you're pretty close to repeating what I said while adding nothing fresh except calling Shannon McDonnell the Hull centre which of course he isn't.

It will be interesting to see what happens to him after this season.Will he go home or sign a deal elswhere?

Not good enough for SL, not good enough for NRL - Championship bound if you ask me.

What I don't get is how he ever managed to get the gig? IMHO (of course) I don't think he's good enough for ANY SL team, let alone Championship title contenders.

I think he could get a gig at a lower end super league team. Don't particularly want him at Leeds but I would think he's a good cheap option for someone tooth not as a first choice maybe

I understand Rhinos have 'asked' if Hunslet will take him several times, but Hunslet 'don't need him'

There are also some others who Rhinos have asked "can you accommodate" and Hunslet have said no. In previous posts I have mentioned these names - but have been shot down by people saying, "your having a laugh xxx is better than any player at Hunslet" It seems not!

Your description and mine are fundamentally different. As I have been stating since page 4, IMO Hall mistimed his challenge on McDonnell and failed in his attempt to take man and ball having comitted himself in coming out of the line. He only managed an outstretched touch on McDonnell who was then able to step inside him and run through an unready and obstructed defence. You blame Moon who you accuse of ball watching whereas I think he was obstructed. Had Hall not shot out of the line he would have ben able to "force" McDonnell to use his overlap or go outside giving our covering defence plenty of chance to stop the attack.

As I say look at the VT or the highlights on the Leeds website.