Unfortunately this thread has moved away from the original issue of cake and Brazil. Having read some of the earlier comments in this thread I’ve had an inspiring idea.

Why don’t we turn this donate and get cake into some sort of enterprise?

Write down what you want and I’ll print it out and put it in a hat. Whatever gets picked out of the hat is the cause we’ll all support that week/month/however long it takes. It’ll be like the lottery but you’ll eventually get your prize because you it'll eventually get picked out of the hat.

I think we should start with small causes first just to see if this would work out. So if someone wants a new pair of trainers then we’ll put that in the hat. If someone wants £80 to spend in Waterstones then we’ll put that in the hat too. Eventually we’ll move onto bigger things once the concept has proven to work. We could have a mixture of needs/wants in the hat. So one week we could pick out a piece of paper that asks to raise money for charity.

This concept is proving to work with Ben’s ambition to work in Brazil. However he is an exceptional example of this working because so many seem to be disagreeing that people should be donating to help him get some work experience abroad. But I think this concept has been misunderstood and all I can do now is try and turn it into something that helps more people and more causes.

Care to confront the other points I’ve made in that post or you just nit picking as usual to suit your narrow minded point of view?

you haven't a clue about the real world damo, not a clue. waste of time, not interested in you or your scrounging mates who have to turn to crime.

The same could be said about you with regards to having a clue about the ‘real world’. In this thread we have just discussed ‘the world’ in the local area and to a small extent this country. What you’re living in is a bubble where you assume there’s no alternative.

Oh and you’re accusing me of turning to crime now unless I’ve read that wrong?

My two best mates: One's a qualified doctor working for the NHS and the other ones an assistant teacher. I think you've got me very wrong.

I’m not really interested in you either. Just embarrassed that I have to share my existance with such an uninformed plonker.

Is this guy making cakes and selling them to fund his trip? Personally don't see a issue with it. When I was younger I represent my country at my chosen sport. I had to go cap in hand to several businesses to get the money together to go and there were several events organised for me to help me go.


I cannot agree with you though on a couple of things damo though. People are not forced to turn to crime there are very few people who are forced to turn to crime.

Also on employers don't think you can fault them for being picky and wanting the best possible candidates for the role possible

you said people had to turn to crime which is totally unacceptable, except in your world.
i have been made unemployed quite a few times and each time i worked my tits off to get another job. i was self employed for years so don't you dare try and lecture me on living in a bubble. i've had a young family and no work but i never thought about turning to crime.
there is no excuse for being long term unemployed. none whatsoever.
and i couldn't give a flying what your friends do. try following there example and get off your fat and get a job and stop lecturing those who do bother to go out and work

He’s made cakes, thrown parties and walked the three peaks amongst other things to raise money so he can get work experience abroad. I’m sure if this guy was a promising rugby league player who needed xxx amount to get to Australia so he could have the training of a lifetime to become professional then this thread would had took a very different direction. Unfortunately people have focused too much on Brazil rather than looked at the bigger picture.

Another thing that needs to be taken into consideration is that I’m probably not the best PR person in the world but I‘m trying my best.

A few of my relatives have also needed funding to represent their chosen sport abroad. I didn’t hear uproar from anyone back then and I hope people don’t have a go at you for needing funding at one point in your life.



I agree that more often than not people don’t need to turn to crime. But for the people that do need to then its unfortunate. I’m not condoning crime but I acknowledge that some people have no choice but to go down that path because of circumstance.



I 100% agree with you. But the point I was making is that employers can be as fussy as the unemployed. Whilst one group of people are deemed worthy enough to be fussy another group isn’t. It’s double standards and totally hypocritical.

The unemployed get a lot of uncalled for criticism in this country. It’s normally from those who get paid to write articles in the media or people who have made bad financial choices in their lives and lay some of the blame on the amount of tax they have to pay to keep afloat people in worse circumstances than themselves: the unemployed. If unemployment was such a glamorous lifestyle then millions would have quit their jobs to be on benefits.

I am taking my under 10s to france thurs and some of us did 3 peaks to fund the childrens places. All adults have paid for there own trip out of wages for striking a bat something damo and his sponge mate dont seem to good at.

I did say that some people had to turn to crime but I never said it was acceptable. I was just acknowledging what life can be like for some people in this country.



I’ve worked my tits off to try getting employment to no avail. Whenever that’s trying to get an entry level job or something in the creative industries. At times I have been lazy but it’s been for the good of my own health because rejection after rejection is not easy to take after a while.



Good for you. Want a medal?



Maybe you could try explaining that to people on their pension. They’re technically unemployed but I bet they could do some work for sure.



Nor could I give damn about your desire to shut me up.

I took my car down to the car wash this morning. Out of curiosity i asked one of the lads if there was any work.....to which he replied "there's always work here, ask him (he pointed to the guy who collected the money) he'll sort you out"
Im also pretty certain you won't need qualifications.
I look forward to seeing you there, Damo, next time I call in.

No feckin excuse. None at all.

That's very simplistic look at things.

My mum and dad both worked all their life and supported me financially in my chosen sport at the expense of the things they liked to do in both terms of time and money. I was selected for GB tour in Asia which was approx 6 grand that they couldn't afford so I got sponsorship and there were local charity collections organised so I could live my dream. My parents were not spoungers or scrounges which you seem to be intimating they were for doing that for me.

Nor am I, never been out of work all my life, when times were harder I worked 4 jobs to get a decent full time wage.

Oh those scrounging Kids. You should have had them working in one of those sweatshops in the Far East to fund their trips to France. It’s an absolute outrage. I’m been sarcastic of course.

I’m sorry but both yours and Tads logic is bias and incredibly flawed.

My point is the kids cant work so sponsorship was needed, you dont work like your friend because your a lazy coont.

He would have to get up out of bed sherbert and we cant have that. Damo and his friend have something in common with the car wash........ fecking sponges.