Just out of curiosity, does Tomkins look offside while chasing down "that kick" that lead to the scrum? (also I know I named it "offisde" stupid typo) i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... ffisde.png

Just out of curiosity, does Tomkins look offside while chasing down "that kick" that lead to the scrum? (also I know I named it "offisde" stupid typo) i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... ffisde.png

Nobody seems to realise this. If they're going to say, "ref did this, ref did that" it really is swings and roundabouts. It lead to try and should have been a Wigan penalty in the final third.
As for the forward pass, yes it was forward and should have been chalked off.
As for the 40/20, did Charnley play for it? Did Burrows play for it? If nobody played for it then it's a 40/20.
The best way fans can go about a loss like that, is to sit back and support the actual game and say well played, unlucky.

Two days latter and you're still belly-aching ...... don't you Yorkshire men go on.

Mind you your Tetley's is okay ... just having another pint as I watch another replay of the final. By the way no one seems to mention the forward pass to Ryan Hall for his second try!

Unless it's Smoothflow it aint from Yorkshire any more.

news travels slow to Hicksville its not brewed in Leeds anymore

The Finch 40/20 attempt was absolutely right IMO. Burrow made a play at the ball in an attempt to stop Charnley kicking through and scoring. Charnley did not attempt to play ther ball after it hit Burrow hence Wigan ball. An excellent decision by the officials at full speed and another example of how people are quick to blame the officials when it suits. The officials do not get the credit they deserve on many occasions.

On the day I thought it was a wrong call but after further analysis in the comfort of my armchair I now realise that the officials got it absolutely right. So given that this was the only incident that was controversial one can only conclude that the officials had a good game overall.

Yes but Tomkins who was offside (see link, he is 2nd in from touch, and at that pointFinch hasnt even kicked the ball so he would have been even more offside) encroached on the 10 in the chase, so the whole who it came off is irrelevant i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... ffisde.png

Yes but Tomkins who was offside (see link, he is 2nd in from touch, and at that pointFinch hasnt even kicked the ball so he would have been even more offside) encroached on the 10 in the chase, so the whole who it came off is irrelevant i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... ffisde.png

If Charnley wasnt making a play at the ball, he wouldnt have been in position to touch the ball.

The ball went into touch about 3-5 yards before the 20yd line anyway. So if no-one had touched it, it would have been Leeds head and feed.

Agreed but that is purely hypothetical because Burrow did touch it when he made a play for it, hence Wigan's scrum.

Quote: nohalfbacks "Tomkins was not in play. It is Charnley we are talking about and he was not offside as your photo clearly shows. So it is very relevant who it came off and the officials got it absolutely right.'" Joel Tomkins, the person to the left of Charnley is not infont of the kicker in that photo? Really? And he was in play as the rules state he has to give 10 yards Look here he is within the 10 i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... ffside.png And just incase you think he might not be offside because of the camera angle, you can see Joels feet are pretty much on the back of "0" of the 30, so if we draw a line from that 30 to other 30 it will give us a line the kicker would need to be infront i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... fside1.png

Quote: nohalfbacks "Tomkins was not in play. It is Charnley we are talking about and he was not offside as your photo clearly shows. So it is very relevant who it came off and the officials got it absolutely right.'" Joel Tomkins, the person to the left of Charnley is not infont of the kicker in that photo? Really? And he was in play as the rules state he has to give 10 yards Look here he is within the 10 i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... ffside.png And just incase you think he might not be offside because of the camera angle, you can see Joels feet are pretty much on the back of "0" of the 30, so if we draw a line from that 30 to other 30 it will give us a line the kicker would need to be infront i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... fside1.png

The ball hit him off Burrow but he clearly wasn't trying to play at the ball at that point. He is clearly trying to avoid contact. Hence the officials got it spot on. Well done to them for a split second decision.

still got the offside wrong, see above