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Quote: Loiner4life "How about SL teams having to play a certain number of u21's players in the cup and only 1 overseas player - dunno, scrapping it wont be an option so....'"
How would that improve the comp and attendance?

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super league teams should come into the competition in round 5 not round 4. This would give 12 super league and 4 national league or when super league goes to 14 teams 14 and 2 national league teams.

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Quote: Eccleshill Rhino "Following last night's game it occurs to me that a re-think of competition is required.

I appreciate scrapping the competition is a non-runner. National TV exposure etc. I would scrap it if it were my choice.

However games like last nights' at Leeds and Saints do the reputation of the competition no good. RL isn't like football weak sides simply cannot stop the opposition from scoring - there is a big difference between the size of the goal in soccer and the try line in RL. The gap between the SL sides and the rest is now so big these games are no longer competitive.

Judging by the crowds last night the paying public have also lost the appetite for these one-sided non-contests. The junior clubs no longer get the pay day they once did.

Castleford did show that the top sides in NL1 can be competitive and I do realise the romance of the cup for the the sides outside of SL.

I suggest the following

how about the SL sides can only score against NL2 opposition upto 10 meters either side of the posts or under them(thus reducing the width of the tryline) and are not allowed to convert a try.

and against NL 1 opposition are not allowed to score in the 10 meter area from the touchline in(on each side of the pitch) thus reducing the width of the tryline by 20meters in total conversions are allowed

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Quote: oldlee-quin "how about the SL sides can only score against NL2 opposition upto 10 meters either side of the posts or under them(thus reducing the width of the tryline) and are not allowed to convert a try.

and against NL 1 opposition are not allowed to score in the 10 meter area from the touchline in(on each side of the pitch) thus reducing the width of the tryline by 20meters in total conversions are allowed'"


It's already a joke competition Shag, and you want to turn it into an even bigger joke?

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How about if the lower league sides were allowed 18 consecutive tackles instead of just 6? That'd be a real test of any defence.

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Quote: Agent Provocateur "It's already a joke competition Shag, and you want to turn it into an even bigger joke?'"


some people are completely devoid of a sense of humour......you failed


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I think we should have Klein refereeing every game

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Quote: mirfieldrhino "I think we should have Klein refereeing every Wakefield game'"



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Quote: oldlee-quin "how about the SL sides can only score against NL2 opposition upto 10 meters either side of the posts or under them(thus reducing the width of the tryline) and are not allowed to convert a try.

and against NL 1 opposition are not allowed to score in the 10 meter area from the touchline in(on each side of the pitch) thus reducing the width of the tryline by 20meters in total conversions are allowed'"

Priceless.

One of the funniest posts I have read on here in ages. Now if that did happen it would turn it into an even bigger Mickey Mouse competition icon_mrgreen.gif

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Quote: Lord_Percy "Do you think that would make much difference though? I would have thought those not willing to pay £12 to watch a mis-match would feel the same about paying £8, for example. If it's included in your season ticket, what happens if there isn't a home game?

I'm not saying the ideas aren't worthy of discussion, just pointing out some of the counter arguments.'"

I would have thought it would make some difference as long as the discount was enticing enough, as i believe that fans thinking theyre not getting value for money from a CC game is a big factor. Hence the only half-decent crowds at semi finals when youre virtually guarenteed a relatively tough opposition.
Im not saying it would mean we'd get 15,000 against Workington but may increase the crowds a little and may guard against the embarrassment of stadiums being half empty the only time RL gets on the BBC.

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No further questions.'"


So Les Cats winning is because of the cup? They beat Salford 3 weeks before the game against Saints and ran the Saints team close over the easter weekend earlier in the season having played and having to travel to France just like St Helens so just because they won (oh the shock of them winning!!) that is another reason to scrap the cup?

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Quote: Saint Chris the first "So Les Cats winning is because of the cup? They beat Salford 3 weeks before the game against Saints and ran the Saints team close over the easter weekend earlier in the season having played and having to travel to France just like St Helens so just because they won (oh the shock of them winning!!) that is another reason to scrap the cup?'"


Now you just look desperate.

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Facts my good fellow mere facts

Saying that, Wigans domination of the cup way back when wasn't any good for the game either, if the RFL further developed NL teams and helped them all go full time and got the standard up to a low level SL team - Hudds for example - then the cup would be a more competitive altho not likely to throw up many sides from NL1 2 and beyond winning it, it sure would improve it

Develop the teams to improve the cup don't just rid RL of what is the most Historic cup in the sport

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Quote: oldlee-quin "how about the SL sides can only score against NL2 opposition upto 10 meters either side of the posts or under them(thus reducing the width of the tryline) and are not allowed to convert a try.

and against NL 1 opposition are not allowed to score in the 10 meter area from the touchline in(on each side of the pitch) thus reducing the width of the tryline by 20meters in total conversions are allowed'"


Make the SL team wear those bicycle cranks a la 'Its A Knockout'

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