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Oledzki is a workhorse prop. He is not and never will be the sort of prop who opposition fear. Not because he doesn't get aggro, but he just doesn't/can't run or hit with the kind of sheer power that others do. If the rest of our rotation was full of mongrel he'd be the perfect balance. Sadly the rest are complete powder puffs, and Oledzki looks worse than he is a lot of the time.

If you want to fix this team up though then size and aggression up front are what's needed. We have zero platform for Croft or the backs, and everyone looks awful. Martin is our best forward, but as an OS player he may need to be sacrificed to get us some oomph. But really the rest of the forwards are almost laughably bad as a unit. The only way that could change is if a new coach comes in and tries to get them to tear in. I don't think we have many that could change, maybe Holroyd?

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Our pack gets bullied every week and continually gives up cheap yardage when defending. Croft needs to play behind a dominant pack to get the best out of him if we can see this then surely Blease will do too.

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Agree with a lot Jon said. Blease will be taking note no doubt

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Sounds like Wilkin should be coach!

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Various players not doing strength conditioning and coach not too bothered apparently.

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Quote: RAPIDO "Various players not doing strength conditioning and coach not too bothered apparently.'"


Never forget Rohan’s immortal words at the beginning of the season, “Training’s overrated for some of these dudes”.

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Re. Bentley, yes he is aggressive and tigerish, his style obviously suits some of the mentality of posters on here and that's fine - however how in heaven's name is Bentley going to solve our go-forward problems and lack of size in the pack??

He is a workhorse but with various fitness and disciplinary issues he has turned out to be a very poor signing for Leeds. Again the wrong type of player for what we needed and too similar to other workhorse type players we have. McDonnell hasn't had his best season this year but for me he is still the better workhorse than Bentley and more consistent overall.

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I thought re-signing Bentley was a bad idea for the reasons you say - we desperately need size and physical presence. If we had a big pack aside from him Bentley would be a great player to have around, but the fact that he makes zero yards with the ball just compounds what's already a big issue. McDonnell was a far better all-round forward last year. He's struggling this season but we've seen his potential.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Re. Bentley... his style obviously suits some of the mentality of posters on here '"


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To be fair, in Bentley's limited number of showings this season he did bring an aggressive intensity that few of our other forwards have been able to replicate. And the other forwards are probably giving just as many needless penalties too.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Re. Bentley, yes he is aggressive and tigerish, his style obviously suits some of the mentality of posters on here and that's fine - however how in heaven's name is Bentley going to solve our go-forward problems and lack of size in the pack??

He is a workhorse but with various fitness and disciplinary issues he has turned out to be a very poor signing for Leeds. Again the wrong type of player for what we needed and too similar to other workhorse type players we have. McDonnell hasn't had his best season this year but for me he is still the better workhorse than Bentley and more consistent overall.'"

I know you're not a fan of Bentley, but we have played a lot better with him in the side this year. Like absolutely every other player in the squad he would benefit from some clarity in terms structure and clarity. If you tell him to play what he sees he's going he's going to chase his tail.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Re. Bentley, yes he is aggressive and tigerish, his style obviously suits some of the mentality of posters on here and that's fine - however how in heaven's name is Bentley going to solve our go-forward problems and lack of size in the pack??

He is a workhorse but with various fitness and disciplinary issues he has turned out to be a very poor signing for Leeds. Again the wrong type of player for what we needed and too similar to other workhorse type players we have. McDonnell hasn't had his best season this year but for me he is still the better workhorse than Bentley and more consistent overall.'"



Bentley is better in a big pack and an ideal player to compliment that , McDonnell unfortunately at the moment is proving to be a poor mans Bentley

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Quote: Shabino "Sounds like Wilkin should be coach!'"



People on here do not like him but he talks a lot of sense

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He doesn't talk sense all the time. Like claiming Sam Walters was our best player last year.

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I'd say its more that the issues with our team and style of play are so obvious anybody could point them out. Like shooting fish in a barrel unfortunately.

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Think his comments about Mick and the rest of us actually generated a positive IMO best performance of the season from Mick.
Well done to him now hope he can keep up the improvements and make us all eat our words.

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