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The first out the door would be Watkins, waaaaay before any of the other centres at the club. Perfect example of the malaise that has beset the club. Cash in and strengthen the halfback area

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Quote: Gotcha "Keep Lilley and Baldwinson, let the others go. Try and a Keep Burrow to coach in the club.'"

What's he gonna coach? Jumping out of dummy half and running sideways?

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Quote: sgtwilko "What's he gonna coach? Jumping out of dummy half and running sideways?'"

Watching the u15's/16's he's been involved with as a Coach you'd be surprised mate they play some brilliant RL.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Wouldn't go for Gallen i think he'll retire anyway.
Widdop i agree with & a destructive Prop & BR.
Ward would be my Captain with Widdop as VC.
In terms of departures id do a clean sweep of Mc.D & his staff including the Conditioning team.
Wrt to playing departures Delaney Mcguire Walters Aston(pointless signing) Jjb.
Id keep Burrow as a Sub9 i really rate Moon but if an offer came from Down under it would be worth exploring if we could secure 1 of the aforementioned fwd requirements from it.
Id want to keep the rest of the younger players to see how they go under a fresh regime prepared to give them proper game time in a settled position.'"


There's no quick fix here whatever. The squad looks poor, particularly the forwards, and especially if you take out all the over 30's. Our next generation is basically Stevie Ward. When you start missing a player as plodding and worn out as Galloway you know the pack is cack.
It's been said by many that the dressing room and the training ground need fresh voices and a new direction. The "bubble" needs to burst, the knee needs to jerk, the pot needs $h1tting on, the time to act is now not tomorrow, patience needs to run out and loyalty needs to be replaced by pragmatism. The club needs to come between the GH-McD bromance. It's now looking like a bad marriage that needs to finish for the sake of the kids.

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Quote: sgtwilko "
Quote: sgtwilko "Keep Lilley and Baldwinson, let the others go. Try and a Keep Burrow to coach in the club.'"

What's he gonna coach? Jumping out of dummy half and running sideways?'"


He's already been coaching our juniors for a few years, he and Ablett are highly rated young coaches.

I'd definitely let Walters go, maybe Handley as well. I hope McGuire retires, and we bring in a quality half back to partner Lilley. Widdop may fit the bill, but unless we can start building more of a platform upfront it won't matter. On paper, our fowards are decent, but they don't hit gaps, they don't run off the ball, therefore they don't create options, that's where our lack of structure and am obvious game plan is most evident to me. Some changes are needed, but there's enough quality in this squad to at least be competitive against any team in this league, but we desperately need some nous on and off the pitch.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Watching the u15's/16's he's been involved with as a Coach you'd be surprised mate they play some brilliant RL.'"

Yes! I was been sarcastic. As a player we all know he has been a great ball runner, with a rocks and diamonds kicking game.

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Quote: Charlie Sheen "He's already been coaching our juniors for a few years, he and Ablett are highly rated young coaches.

I'd definitely let Walters go, maybe Handley as well. I hope McGuire retires, and we bring in a quality half back to partner Lilley. Widdop may fit the bill, but unless we can start building more of a platform upfront it won't matter. On paper, our fowards are decent, but they don't hit gaps, they don't run off the ball, therefore they don't create options, that's where our lack of structure and am obvious game plan is most evident to me. Some changes are needed, but there's enough quality in this squad to at least be competitive against any team in this league, but we desperately need some nous on and off the pitch.'"

I know re the coach! Chill folks.

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Quote: DHM "There's no quick fix here whatever. The squad looks poor, particularly the forwards, and especially if you take out all the over 30's. Our next generation is basically Stevie Ward. When you start missing a player as plodding and worn out as Galloway you know the pack is cack.
It's been said by many that the dressing room and the training ground need fresh voices and a new direction. The "bubble" needs to burst, the knee needs to jerk, the pot needs $h1tting on, the time to act is now not tomorrow, patience needs to run out and loyalty needs to be replaced by pragmatism. The club needs to come between the GH-McD bromance. It's now looking like a bad marriage that needs to finish for the sake of the kids.'"

Completely agree i wouldn't expect all the changes required to produce a "quick fix" mate.
Id expect the new regime/squad changes to be given a minimum of this year & next to settle into a strong unit good enough to challange again.

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Rumours that George Burgess is wanting a return to England I'd be happy if we went for him and widdop and that would be a start of decent recruiting.

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Quote: Jrrhino "Rumours that George Burgess is wanting a return to England I'd be happy if we went for him and widdop and that would be a start of decent recruiting.'"


There are murmurings that Burgess will replace Lynch at Cas, though I don't think any SL team can afford him (unless they make him a marquee player, which is unlikely as he doesn't play a pivotal position).
Again, Widdop must be on more than most SL clubs would be willing/able to pay.

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Quote: FGB "The first out the door would be Watkins, waaaaay before any of the other centres at the club. Perfect example of the malaise that has beset the club. Cash in and strengthen the halfback area'"


We'll have him to replace Webster.

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Quote: Sir Kevin Sinfield "I don't think anyone would disagree with the fact we desperately need to bring some new blood into the squad, sadly I can't see that happening this year. So planning ahead and looking who is off contract at the end of this year, I think we need to be fairly brutal and free up as much salary cap space as possible to bring new players in. Off contract this year we have Burrow, Handley, Lilley, McGuire, Sutcliffe, Baldwinson,JJB, Walters.

I would do the following
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Sutcliffe
Lilley
Handley

Release
McGuire
Burrow
JJB
Baldwinson
Walters'"


From that list, I'd keep Sutcliffe (to play in the forwards) and Lilley and that's it. I'd also pay off Delaney (how has he got a long contract?) and find Mullalley a Championship home. Nowhere near convinced on Golding either, but would like to see what he can do with an attacking game plan under a decent coach.

Priority is obviously a controlling half but don't see that many available. Widdop is inconsistent and probably wouldn't come anyway, nor would any NRL first teamer other than those towards the end of their career. Of those, Cronk or Thurston are not going to happen, and the only other one in that category is Blake Green. It's either that or a big transfer fee for Gale.

Other than Garbutt we have no punch in the middle either. If Adam Walker doesn't fit in at Saints I'd buy him and buy him now. Always quality for Scotland, and against us for HKR. Garbutt/Singleton/Walker/Cuthbertson/Galloway is a decent rotation for now.

McDermott also needs to go now not at the end of the season. We can't afford the players we have to keep regressing or it won't matter who we bring in next year.

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Quote: Jrrhino "Rumours that George Burgess is wanting a return to England I'd be happy if we went for him and widdop and that would be a start of decent recruiting.'"


He was terrible last year and has been dropped by Souths this year. Doubt there are a queue of NRL clubs queueing to buy him at the moment. He'd improve us though.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Completely agree i wouldn't expect all the changes required to produce a "quick fix" mate.
Id expect the new regime/squad changes to be given a minimum of this year & next to settle into a strong unit good enough to challange again.'"


Arn't you suppose to do all this pre-season?

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Quote: atomic "Arn't you suppose to do all this pre-season?'"


Erm.....yes

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