I tell it how it is - last night was diabolical, to see what was a great side to watch, win or lose turn into the impotent attacking team they are now is nothing short of tragic.

You may big up the effort - but you cannot defend the standard.

Even the win gives no real satisfaction - its like pulling an ugly girl

To be honest, I thought they'd just read the SkySports report on our game and not watched last night! Yes we dropped a fair bit of ball, but I never thought we looked like we were going to lose last night. You can only play what's in front of you, and in the conditions it was never going to be a pretty game, but you could see their confidence growing in defence. No we won't get out of the bottom 4, but if we can build on that performance, I am fairly confident we might be able to compete for 10th and a set of home advantage games.

I thought Falloon showed what he can/could bring to the team given an injury free run in the team.

He's not had a massive amount of game time and I think he's another that has been brought back previously when not fully recovered from his back injury, probably in part due to him wanting to impress, new overseas recruit and all that and that fact he's only here on a 1 year deal and McD was probably keen to bring him back too early to get a 'proper hooker' in the team and he's broken down before.

I think he could, given the chance turn a lot of fan's opinions round on him, a bit like Galloway has.

Like I said on the Farrah thread, I actually think if he continued like the hooker we saw last night, I don't think we'd need to bring in a new NRL hooker and instead could use the cash to try and get the halfback we desperately need.

I also think another of the 'favourite scapegoats' in Achurch was pretty good last night and got involved more and I remain convinced there is a good player in there somewhere if he can remain injury free.

He was certainly far from our worse prop/forward last night, that 'honour' would go to Cuthbertson who whilst clearly not looking fit, was gash and IMO his 'fall from grace' this year is as spectacular as Watkins.

I actually think Cuthbertson began to drop off towards the end of last year and couldn't put it down to whether it was the fact the teams learnt how to nullify his offloading game better or whether it was his wrist/hand injury that he seemed to keep playing with, or a combination of both?

Had this been his first year here, I can only imagine the amount of stick he'd be getting on here and at the ground, given the comments this year about other new recruits in Galloway and Falloon

Usually this is used when you've stuck 50 on poor opposition.

TBH my immediate thought on walking away from the ground was one of nostalgia. It felt like I was back in the 80s. Poor side getting a hard fought victory against another poor side in terrible conditions.

My two sons are 17 & 15 y.o. & have known nothing but massive success (the odd year apart).

I got more pleasure out of last night (for all the dropped balls, poor attacking options etc) than a 50 point drubbing of Salford/Wakey/HKR/London/Catalans et al over the last 12 years. Perhaps we need a period of being sh*t to get our feet back on the ground & re-appreciate any good times to follow.

Thanks for above. Missed game last night went to see Neil Young. Great gig. Came out and saw we had nilled them and was chuffed. My hopes of a great performance soon dismissed on here. Great to get a win, will do them a lot of good

While both teams were terrible to say our defence wasnt better than it has been isnt being fair. We defended our line and defended grubber kicks much better than we have all year.

Some of the play was just absolutely farcical tho.

My sentiments exactly. I can't believe how good the atmosphere was last night, the best this season. The Leeds fans really do need a pat on the back for the way they have stuck with and supported the team. It was like we'd just won a play off game at the final whistle, I bet some of the newer players couldn't believe it. The players gave everything and the fans responded. Too late to save the season, but I'll take any pleasure, no matter how little, and enjoy the moment.

You are talking complete nonsense. You have no idea what is happening next year

Because the only you are pulling is attached to your body

The defence looked better because the opposition didn't ask the same quality of question.

To nil any team in SL is a decent achievement. When it comes on the back of a 10 game losing streak it's a massive achievement! One step at a time