Gosh "The Strega", that brings back youthful memories..

Gaiety wasn't that bad, though it was a den of iniquity. You were usually safe in there despite the scum bags and dealers because it was usually full of off duty coppers and press!

Strangely enough me and G1 had a conversation about this place not so long ago, it was before my time so I never went but it sounded like a fun place.

I went to the Strega once, a bit intimidating, I too never thought the Gaiety was that bad and never felt particularly uncomfortable in there.

For me the scariest pub in Leeds is, or was, the Wilson Arms on the Seacroft Estate. You didn't make eye contact in there. The Royal Park, Little Park and newlands weren't great 25 years ago either.

The fatal shooting of David Nelson was the last straw for that place thankfully. Sad that it took something like that to make licencing committees sit up and take notice mind.

See also The Trotters on York Road (what is now Paws for Thought opposite the Irish Centre) which never recovered from being the centre of a gangland attack.

My Aunty & Uncle used to have the Wilsons in the early 90s IIRC. Never realised it was so bad

I don’t get this whole rough pub area thing and I've been in some right dives!

It was a typical estate pub (if you have enough time, ask McLaren Field to tell you about estate pubs in the North East) - fine if everyone knew you, but not a place you wanted to go as a stranger. It tended to police itself.

Martin Flay and Martin Richardson?

No offence Damo lad but I hardly think the first thoughts of people when you walk into a pub would be " oh look hes a gangster/drug dealer lets shoot him" !!

I would have thought it would be more along the lines of " ID him"

You might speculate that, I wouldn't wish to either confirm or deny.

If I recall it was one set of not particularly charming individuals looking for another set of equally charmless ones and a lot of innocent people getting caught in the middle.

I had the Boylans involved there somewhere, but I might be mixing it up with the attack on The Manston they ended up going down for.

This is correct

Did the Whinmoor too?

I still think they might have been the intended target of the attack on The Trotters?

Mentioning Martin Flay, isn't he inside for assaulting his sister?