One thing's for sure, some of our players must be outrageously overpaid if the squad as a whole is paid about the same as Wigan.

Just back from Pieland. Tough result, but not one anybody should be surprised by. It's clear, that as rumoured, there will need to be a clear out of oontracted players (startng with but not exclusive to middle forwards) at end of the season. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to understand that Arthur and Blease knew that long before tonight. On the plus side, Lumb has talent.

Also, Wigan were outstanding.

They were good but they were able to play because we were utterly smashed up front yet again. We really have an awful pack.

Just a quick question, nothing to do with the game, does anyone know who the fat lad wearing green is who wanted to fight all through the match? It is obvious that the nearest he has been to a rugby field is standing on the terraces.

Better not tell GH, he'll be offering him a 4 year contract before you know it

Yet again I have to gently point out we are a mid table side, last night we played like a bottom two side. At ten nil, we steadied the ship but unfortunately we haven’t the physical or mental capacity to get back into the game. I personally don’t like singling out players But last night’s performance from the monster (hollow laugh) and frawley was woeful. Croft to his credit tried his best without Much support. Newman, if a wrong option is available he will take it. Anyone on here think that a couple of signings will fix the situation is sadly deluded. Much but not all of the blame can be attributed to Rohan Smith but the senior management of the club must accept some responsibility for this high risk adventure. A glimmer of hope in the future is the current crop of youngsters coming through the system. I am assured we have some talent coming through the ranks. Hopefully we won’t screw up and fail to develope these lads. Not relevant but I note Kevin Sinfield has been offered a three year deal with the rugby union at 300 grand a year.

Funny you should mention we lack mental capacity, because one of JJB’s excuses last night was we are not quite there with our “mental conditioning”. Maybe Jamie needs to enter the conditioning side of things and get them doing a few “psychological” press ups As for our Aussies, it’s a shame they can’t all be like that when it comes to Test Matches. Well done to the fans that travelled over, they’re gonna need some phsycological help after that. See Jamie for details.

I agree but you will not find many on here who do. Oldeski is a protected species on here and there will numerous excuses for his abject performance. Needs to be traded

Yeah i’m not sure getting rid of our only prop that is decent, a homegrown player, is the way to fix our lack of pack to be honest. But each to their own.

Anyway to top it off it took me an absolute age getting home last night I seemed to be stuck near Bolton for hours.

I think Mik would look better in a pack that has more talent. I think at times he’s trying too hard. I will agree he’s had an inconsistent season by his standards. I wouldn’t get rid though. He was one of the first players highlighted by Arthur when he got over and Arthur has a good track record with props.

As I recall (according to SKY) Wigan spent about 600k more than us.
Actually, it's 400k. They also estimated Wire and Catalans spend 300k more. We were tied in 4th, with Huddersfield and Saints.

If that is right, it’s time that caddick looked for some new blood and investors who want to win