Cam Smith seems to be starting to fullfill his massive potential, the timing couldnt be better with the state of our backrow, they should give him a start at 13 on friday and let him play big minutes.

His involvments he had in the last two trys yday were pure class, on the run he made seconds before his own try, there was a good line ran, really good footwork and a lovely freeing of the arm, looking for an offload, with fax players draped all over him, real quality.

A reality check - look who he was playing against and the point in the game when these things happened. He needs the opportunity against top sides to see how good he really is - to date he hasn't shown or had the opportunity to show how good he is against the better sides.

The reality is he along with Dwyer were brought on to influence the game and did so when the team was huffing and puffing at best.
Of course harder tests are to come but at the very least his positive performance should give him more chances to play more minutes against better sides.

You are so vague and emotional and obviously exaggerate things.

egs pushing him off" JJB missed two tackles so was that one for each winger and none for the rest?

Stats are not just numbers on paper. They are a record of the facts of the player's performances and you chose to again have a pop at one of the players with the most effect performance in the job he is asked to do ie: tackle, carry the ball up and make metres. That you regularly fail to credit him with his efforts means you are missing what is actually happening or look you at matches with a preconceived bias.

Dwyer despite his 4 missed tackles was obviously the game changer and Smith had an effective 20 minutes when Halifax had run out of gas.

So I agree that stats do not tell the full story. But they do give sufficient information to question people with an overcritical agenda who only look for faults in certain players and overlook the same or worse faults in others.

but having not seen the game I wonder how you can have an opinion, let alone argue with someone who was there. obviously marks not the only one with a so called agenda

I never understand this too. The exact same thing with the Salford and Widnes game too.

Hopefully you are correct - he needs better opposition to stretch him

Can we y’know... get back to discussing the game and less about each other’s differing personal approaches to games.

Let’s leave the personalities to one side please chaps.

Ta.

Well said. But having stayed of this site for a long time, due to numptys. Does any of the above have any form of coach qualifications?

We all have opinions as fans. But let’s not get too engrossed and over bearing.

All I can say is that reading too much into how well anyone plays against what are a bunch of dreadful sides in the Middle 8s is a bit silly. If someone looks rubbish against that quality its really worrying, but we've all seen plenty of players who look good against poor teams only to vanish when faced with decent opposition.

What you would have seen is exactly what i & the other travelling fans saw.
A Club great coming towards the end of a distinguished career is thst better?
He was done in D by the attack more than twice as were others but they were rotated before him.
Also anyone that was there will agree the influence Dwyer had on that game along with Cam Smith.
Jjb grafted he just isnt up to it for long enough anymore but of course your numbers dont show that so it never happened then.

I wasn't at the game so, unlike you, I haven't given an opinion, let alone make myself look stupid by argueing with people who were there. you stick to your spreadsheets,like a comfort blanket for pensioners i guess

personal vendettas should really be kept on PMs .There is a difference between debate and this sort of thing