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Quote: craigizzard "Yes. Not sure if it's official yet but apparently it's going down to 8.'"

McDermott's a visionary. He's been preparing Leeds for this change for years.

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Quote: G1 "McDermott's a visionary. He's been preparing Leeds for this change for years.'"


Whilst that obviously wasn't some future vision by the club, I did point out several weeks ago that if the number of interchanges does go down that we would probably be better prepared to cope with it due to our players already usually doing long minutes.

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Quote: Gotcha "If you quote a fact, I would consider it, but you didn't quote any. You gave your opinion, which wasn't fact.'"


Fact 1 McGuire will be captain. Who has skippered in Sinfield's absence?
Fact 2 Keinhorst is a solid starter. Check the team line ups in the match day programmes.
Fact 3 Keinhorst is lightweight. Check the website stats. He's almost identical to Ward.

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Quote: Stevosfalseteeth "Fact 1 McGuire will be captain. Who has skippered in Sinfield's absence?
Fact 2 Keinhorst is a solid starter. Check the team line ups in the match day programmes.
Fact 3 Keinhorst is lightweight. Check the website stats. He's almost identical to Ward.

Don't argue against facts.

1. I thought you said "will be". Oh yes you did say "will be", not was, is, but "will be"

2. He played four games up to Wards injury to cover injured players. Only two of which second row. That is not "solid starter" that is squad cover.

3. As explained by me and others, looking at someone is not determining lightweight or not. Muscle mass plays a part, and how strong in the collision. You only have to watch to see the collisions.

Learn the difference between facts and opinion, like I said. What you stated was your opinion.

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



It will be interesting to see how they go with Keinhorst regarding his body for next season. Obviously players particularly during pre-season will be conditioned based on the position they play and I doubt it was in the plans last November that Keinhorst would be playing weekly at 2nd row.

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Quote: ThePrinter "It will be interesting to see how they go with Keinhorst regarding his body for next season. Obviously players particularly during pre-season will be conditioned based on the position they play and I doubt it was in the plans last November that Keinhorst would be playing weekly at 2nd row.'"



Well to be fair, that was where he was playing at Hunslet. Perhaps that was the plan to develop.

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Quote: Gotcha "Keinhorst doesn't break tackles, hence the lightweight. He does however run good lines, which is what G1 said.'"


Not true. In the last 4 games when he has been emergency cover for the 2nd row he has made 8 tackle busts out of 39 carries with an average of one TB every 4.87 carries which is a better average than the Ablett, Kylie, JP, Cuthbo, Aiton, and Delaney for the same period. Only Singo and Ward of the forwards beat his average so he is not doing too bad for a lightweight.

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Quote: Gotcha "1. I thought you said "will be". Oh yes you did say "will be", not was, is, but "will be"

2. He played four games up to Wards injury to cover injured players. Only two of which second row. That is not "solid starter" that is squad cover.

3. As explained by me and others, looking at someone is not determining lightweight or not. Muscle mass plays a part, and how strong in the collision. You only have to watch to see the collisions.

Learn the difference between facts and opinion, like I said. What you stated was your opinion.'"


Great effort. But like I said, don't argue with facts. It makes you look daft eusa_wall.gif

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Personally wouldn't want him to bulk up. He clearly has strength as it is with a bit of speed. At the moment he offers good cover in a number of positions which is important. For me this is where his strength is versatile utility player

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Quote: Ferdy "Personally wouldn't want him to bulk up. He clearly has strength as it is with a bit of speed. At the moment he offers good cover in a number of positions which is important. For me this is where his strength is versatile utility player'"

This ^^^
Whilst the "bulk up" programme worked for Stevie Ward it has back-fired thus far on Walters if JK stays "as is" he easily comes into the team at Centre ,Wing or BR and imo looks more than comfortable there i'd say he's pretty much under-rated by many.

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Keinhorst is a more skillful version of Liam Botham. Perfectly adequate in a number of positions and a useful player to have in any squad. Someone you know won't let you down through lack of effort.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Keinhorst is a more skillful version of Liam Botham. Perfectly adequate in a number of positions and a useful player to have in any squad. Someone you know won't let you down through lack of effort.'"

Agree with that. Players like Keinhorst are important to the team, not in the sense of a major player like a Peacock or McGuire but in adding depth to a squad. If he's happy playing a few games a year for Leeds with the rest at Hunslet then he'll be a very useful player for us in the future.

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Quote: Him "Agree with that. Players like Keinhorst are important to the team, not in the sense of a major player like a Peacock or McGuire but in adding depth to a squad. If he's happy playing a few games a year for Leeds with the rest at Hunslet then he'll be a very useful player for us in the future.'"


With the amount of injuries Delaney, JJB and Achurch pick up, being the backup second rower comes with plenty of opportunity.

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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: rhinoms "This ^^^
Whilst the "bulk up" programme worked for Stevie Ward it has back-fired thus far on Walters if JK stays "as is" he easily comes into the team at Centre ,Wing or BR and imo looks more than comfortable there i'd say he's pretty much under-rated by many.'"

Maybe Walters issue isn't that he bulked up it's just that he's not as good as Stevie Ward or Keinhorst?

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"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Walters hasn't even properly bulked up all over. Just looks like he's had an transplant with Kim Kardashian.

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