Keep the red flag flying

If anybody is prepared to pay a fee for him all well and good - that doesn't seem likely at this point. So just holding out for nothing seems futile to me but if it makes GH feel like more a man good for him. If Leeds have paid a fee for a reserve grade NRL hooker it shows how desperate Leeds are - I doubt Cronulla are equally desperate.

Eastwood did what Segeyaro has done - Canterbury came knocking and he suddenly has home sickness. Wayne Bennett goes to Newcastle and all of a sudden Buderus wants to has his last season at Newcastle. Leeds didn't stand in their way so why be so stubborn in this case and neither did they get a fee or a player exchange for two players who it could be argued were as important to Leeds as Segeyaro.

As has been pointed out, Wolves still hold Sandow's registration.

Plus, the lack of any serious cries of indignation from Warrington reflects more on the fact that he had become a bit part player for their team (& they are probably glad to free up some large cap space), as opposed to Segeyaro, who most would say was crucial to our 2017 & 2018 plans, until he reneged on his deal.



Not true. He wasn't reserve grade whilst playing for Manly in 2016 - 15 games played for the first team until injury curtailed his season.

Leeds may have had to pay a fee for parcelle, because he was in contract. The fee was to buy out his contract. Now the clubs may have agreed the transfer openly and agreed that as he was not first choice the fee was zero.

With regards to buderus and Eastwood, they left two years after signing a contract, and given decent service. Not changed their minds a couple of weeks after signing because a better offer came along

Good balanced post highlighting the hypocrisy.

Doesn't fit the narrative being depicted by all the fawning groupie fans of a nasty and extremely bitter CEO though.

Apart from the fact that they will have been given compensation, or they would have been taken to court. Leeds wanted rid, so settled the contract. Its how contracts work

Your logic is laughable to be honest mate, your asking the guy who runs the financial part of the club to not seek compensation for lost funds


If he just let him go for nothing he wouldn't be doing his job

Eastwood and Buderus told us with plenty of time in advance of the new season, Segeyaro didn't really tell us at all, he just kicked up a fuss in the Aussie press and said he wasn't coming back.

I think it is quite funny that no NRL club is willing to pay a transfer, serves Segeyaro right of thinking any club is privileged to have him.

So Negative as always:

Ryan Sheridan had left a 12 month contract with Leeds and had been brought in by GH from his old club Sheffield Eagles. He was informed that Daryl Powell no longer wanted him as part of his plans for Leeds so we could bring in Mcguire, Burrows and Dunneman. He left Leeds and signed a 2 year contract with Widnes. ( Probably had his remaining contract paid out and at least the difference over the 12 months )

Andy Hay, See above regarding Ryan Sheridan.

Darren Fleary was given a six month notice period that his contract would be terminated, and during that time Huddersfield offered him a contract, Leeds at first said no to the transfer and offered him a squad place after he recovered from injury however Darren wanted to leave, so he became a giants player.

Karl Pratt I have covered on an earlier post .

Yes the club and GH makes mistakes but they are a business and not some cold ruthless machines that some people on hear imagine or ( fantasise about )

Eastwood and Buderus both decided to return to Australia mid season AFTER finishing that season with Leeds which gave us time to plan for the following season. They didn't sign a new contract, say to management and coaches they're happy to remain here and then do a u-turn a couple of weeks later by announcing, not to their faces btw, of their wanting to leave in the Aussie press.

If he came back to Leeds and said in April/May etc. that he wanted to leave at the end of 2017 even though he had another year then I'm sure we'd have let him go. Even if he spoke to Leeds officals privately and just told the truth that he just had a more tempting offer instead of playing the BS homesick to the Aussie press in an attempt to force Leeds to release him then again Leeds may have been willing to let him go.

Sure people can provide plenty of examples were Leeds have wanted to get rid of players because they no longer feature in their first team plans, happens at every club.....but they didn't just rip up there contract and stop paying them.

Your inability to comprehend is duly noted. In the same post you have said the club should seek financial compensation but nobody is prepared to pay!! Now that is truly laughable



My point was/is nobody is going to pay Leeds for him so what is the point of holding his registration? its childish - if you think Leeds who have cancelled his contract will be able to stop him playing then you are more naïve than I thought. You cannot prevent somebody with whom you have no contract earning a living.

Its a pointless exercise - Leeds should just move on and concentrate on building a side that doesn't finish in the bottom 4. That would be progress

There are two broad points here.
1. How GH is handling the specific Seggy issue. I believe he is well within his rights to kick up a stink. I agree it will probably be to no avail but just letting a player walk literally days after her signed an extension and then us having to pay for a replacement is not on. He has to make a noise about that.
2. The wider 'contracts aren't worth the paper they are written on' issue we as a sport find ourselves facing. Something has to be done that deters players from going rogue and protects clubs. Of course if a player AND club come to a mutual agreement that is different.

I will watch with interest how the Seggy, Sandow and Solomona pieces end.

Let's be honest, those criticising the stance of GH on this issue have a clear and consistent agenda with all things concerning the club. If GH had just released JS you could bet your life the same people would accuse him of setting a precedent by rolling over and taking it up the backside.

You only have to look at the main ringleader to relies it's yet another poor, tired troll attempt.

You would think after 10+ years folk could see through the agenda.

10+ years?

What an interesting figure that is.

That's how long your intolerant mate has been stalking me online.

I hope he hasn't hacked your account.

Merry Christmas BTW

Well, we can't count the broken time attendance on here that coincided with Leeds's most successful period can we?

That wouldn't fit the narrative shag would it?

Merry Christmas Billy & to one and all.

I must be the supreme predictor of Leeds treble success in 2015 then because I wasn't posting here for well over a year and that included the whole of 2015 including the pre-season. That's quite some broken time right there

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Still, enjoy your own intolerent narrative of evil ringleader of 10+ years who dares to criticise the club on a discussion forum of all places.

Merry Xmas again and a Happy New Year.

I do hope you lose the ******81 intolerant mindset real soon

Nice try Billy.

But like I said. Old and tired.

Keep fishin'

Back on topic now please.

I'd just like to point out - I'm usually one of GH's biggest supporters, and believe he is THE most important addition ever in our clubs history, and would in no way wish for him to move on from Leeds.....

But I do think he's played this one wrong.... As I said before, I'd prefer to play the 'see you later, we're bigger and better than one individual card'... And even if he is holding out for a fee, I don't agree with the bravado quotes in the press - I feel it belittles GH and the club and makes us seem a little desperate...

To use a weird analogy, it's like when someone has been cheated on by a husband/wife, and all they do is go around telling everyone how much they've been hurt and talking about their divorce..... NOBODY CARES.... Move on.... Get a life....

Except in this case people do care. The NRL clubs who may want Segeyaro.

The press statements are directed at them. That seems sensible to me.

It's also about drawing a line in the sand and ensuring NRL clubs start paying transfer fees.

I agree that if you focus on the one incident Leeds are probably wasting their time. If no club wants to pay a fee for him, then we won't be able to get one. But that doesn't mean we should rollover and take it. By making the player struggle and the NRL club not get their own way it shows that certainly the club won't be taken advantage of. Hopefully, when combined with the cas reaction to Solomona clubs can unite to stop contracts being welcomed on.

bite, chomp, etc

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you too loiner81

Haven't seen any New Years Resolutions on the boards yet...? I'll try to be mature and balanced - any other takers?

Oi!

That was mine last year

Cheers Bill, funniest thing I've read all day! Best wishes for the New Year