i'd go as far as to say we've got it to prove over the next few years before we are where we all want to be.

which is challenging for major honours year in year out.

That said ask any fan of any team if they'd have taken a CC final and 2nd in the league at this stage of the season and anyone who says they wouldn't is lying.

Not me, I wanted a CC final and 5th in the league.

yes of course

will be a great day out....after we'd beaten sts i hoped that wire would win!! got my tickets today , upper tier, not very happy about that however!!

But we didn't we were shocking that day, bai brain fart, ward missed tackle.

who's to say you won't be shocking this year,,,,

The Ward miss tackle.

It was a poor one on one especially as he was against Cooke.

But to be fair, Ward's try got us back into the game and didn't he also play 80m?? With the injuries that occured. Not a bad effort.

Or 79 minutes to be accurate??

Not according to the bookies, and they don't make many mistakes.

Leeds are favs and thats fine with me.

This is the one you really want well according to Senior.

Warrington are the favourites. Anyone who claims otherwise is watching a different sport to me.

Do I think Leeds can win though - of course they can.

I want some of what you're having or are you certified?

Erm, in case it's escaped your attention, you are the holders and you are above us in the league. Now, i am not saying I necessarily agree with TVOC but it's an easily justifiable position to take.

Unless you're saying he should be certified for saying we could beat you, in which case this thread might be worth a book mark.

So the team that is currently second in the league shouldn't be favourites against the team fifth in the league, on a neutral venue, despite the fact they have scored more points and conceded less points this season?

You don't work for a bookmakers do you?

Remind me of wire v leeds scores this season?

No.

Look 'em up yourself.