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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "These clubs need all the money for themselves whereas Leeds can afford to be concerned about the rest of the sport. They may be richer than Hetherington (but not Leeds' owner) but they certainly aren't in the same league as Rugby League administrators as the financial performance of their clubs proves, Lenagan and McManus in particular.'"
Dead right. Lenagan seems to be the driving force behind this breakaway. Of the three, his club is - by far - the weakest financially. Is it right that the game should be led in a way aimed to mitigate the sale of Wigan's ground all those years ago?
Grow the game? Don't make me laugh.
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "These clubs need all the money for themselves whereas Leeds can afford to be concerned about the rest of the sport. They may be richer than Hetherington (but not Leeds' owner) but they certainly aren't in the same league as Rugby League administrators as the financial performance of their clubs proves, Lenagan and McManus in particular.'"
I would say what McManus is achieving in terms of the busines side, will equal that of GH in the long run. You can't tar them all with the same brush because of Wigan. McManus seems far more astute than others.
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| The Fev statement seems to hit the nail on the head to me.
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| That statement from Fev is absolutely bang on. Well considered and delivered.
Although I don't agree with the way GH has played this, I believe he is on the right side of it, in my opinion.
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| Quote: LocalSuperhero "That statement from Fev is absolutely bang on. Well considered and delivered.
Although I don't agree with the way GH has played this, I believe he is on the right side of it, in my opinion.'"
He is far from the right side of it. I can not understand how you have come to that conclusion? The others may well end up been wrong in how they have gone about it, but in the end it would appear are unified in changing something that simply does not work. The fact it does not work, in its self tells you that GH is not on the right side of it, if he continues to take that stance.
In any sport, the drivers of that sport are the the people at the top. Therefore that element of the game should always be the priority to deliver the sports future. From that the rest share from it.
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| I read the statement to suggest that the way the announcement has been made is in question, along with the assertion/intimation that it is a done deal is entirely wrong as it involves a much wider pool of people than just the Super League clubs.
He seems to be challenging this and suggesting that the need is for a wider consultation, as, it seems, was already happening....all be it slowly.
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| Quote: LocalSuperhero "I read the statement to suggest that the way the announcement has been made is in question, along with the assertion/intimation that it is a done deal is entirely wrong as it involves a much wider pool of people than just the Super League clubs.
He seems to be challenging this and suggesting that the need is for a wider consultation, as, it seems, was already happening....all be it slowly.'"
It was most certainly wrong that these clubs have bullied the movement along by their actions. However, what GH and the lower clubs are complaining about is that they don't want it to happen. They may sit behind the smoke screen and spit dummy's out at the way it has been handled, but what they really want is nothing to change. In that sense they are wrong.
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| Maybe we can have a split - the 11 in SL a closed shop and Leeds and all the championship clubs!!
The power in the game is now with Leneghan, McManus and Moran i.e. guys that are putting their own money where their mouth is as opposed the GH who has never put any of his money into Leeds.
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| Quote: FearTheVee "A pretty direct riposte to Hetherington from McManus
Wow - that slaps GH down a peg or two
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Maybe we can have a split - the 11 in SL a closed shop and Leeds and all the championship clubs!!
The power in the game is now with Leneghan, McManus and Moran i.e. guys that are putting their own money where their mouth is as opposed the GH who has never put any of his money into Leeds.'"
That's because Hetherington, since the very start at Sheffield, has shown how to run successful and profitable Rugby League clubs - there has never been any need for him or his backers to fund anything other than initial capital - he just doesn't allow his clubs to run at a deficit.
Every other administrator in the league apart from maybe Catalans who have a wierd setup, have shown themselves totally incapable of balancing their books or seriously growing their businesses.
If the power is now with the failures and the one successful administrator is standing alone against them then I think we might have some issues.
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| find the Halifax statement. great read and there's no doubt about McManus and co going after more money. greed pure and simple
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| Obviously, funding the championships until the end of the current deal 2021, then? You’re on your own, f’off.
Disgusting and classless, everything you’d expect from the dark half.
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| Anyway, that was much better tonight, play with that enthusiasm for the rest of the season we may be ok, despite the loss was a thoroughly enjoyable game.
One thing to add, I think the atmosphere will be immense once the stadium is complete
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| Quote: The Ghost of '99 "That's because Hetherington, since the very start at Sheffield, has shown how to run successful and profitable Rugby League clubs - there has never been any need for him or his backers to fund anything other than initial capital - he just doesn't allow his clubs to run at a deficit.
Every other administrator in the league apart from maybe Catalans who have a wierd setup, have shown themselves totally incapable of balancing their books or seriously growing their businesses.
If the power is now with the failures and the one successful administrator is standing alone against them then I think we might have some issues.'"
He is also fortunate enough to administer the biggest club with the biggest potential audience - Leeds as a city is 5/6 times the size of every other town in SL with the exception of Hull which has two teams in the same city.
The fact Wigan with a population of 100k can get crowds the size of Leeds suggests someone at that club is doing something right - both have a soccer club too.
It would be almost impossible for any other club in SL to generate the income Leeds do they simple don't have the potential customer/corporate audience.
Just because they aren't as big as Leeds doesn't mean they can't add some real value to the bigger picture. You can hardly say GH and cronies have done a great job attracting monies into the game. Something has to change or the game will return to semi-pro after the next TV deal.
Compare and contrast the growth in club RU to that of RL and ask yourself is GH and his puppet at the RFL really the right people to be driving the game forward?
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