Agreed AC, the stuff in the first half yesterday echoed last season and preseason in particular, it just demonstrates a desire to cut corners. The game will in the main always be based on earning the right to play yet this sloppy attitude the thinking that can be reinvented has always coincided with our worst RS performances.

I want to see the short kickoffs disposed of as even if it comes off 50% of the time and for all the practice you get at them in game without pressure you chuck away the opportunity to practice the things that will actually matter come the start of the season.


The experiment needs to end otherwise his tenure will.

Miller may not be the fastest sprinter in the league but he looked remarkably slower than in the footage I've seen of him.

Miller will be fine personally i saw enough to show he has some skills that we've been lacking.

It was his first run out in how many months?

He looked to be trying too hard in the first half to impress.

I'll wait until 6 games into the season to look st how the new guys are doing.
Will take time to get match fit and with a pretty much new spine it's going to need time to gel.

RS has to cut out the nonsense though, it's not worked right all last season and it won't.

Miller won’t get faster with match practice - it’s as Clueso said he has acceleration but not outright top speed I think. He does have skill but my main interest is in his D.

Can’t wait to see a full first team play together.

Only one game so can’t read too much into anything.
Alfie Edgell came on for Miller. Miller showed some real skill but overplayed and of more concern did not
Look in very good condition to me. Gannon going off with a head knock was the other downer.
On the plus side I thought Frawley did well and I like the
Look of Littlewood and Fergus McCormack reminded me very much in how he carries
Himself of a top player from yesteryear. I won’t name him. Be interesting to see how Jack Smith develops. As others have said hopefully we finally stop these slow starts where we look slack.

Ha. Reminded me of one too, although not a Leeds player. Used to play for the Pies.

Snap , don’t want to type his name as he still makes me feel sick.

I'm surprised McGillvary has joined Wakey to be honest. Always rated him. I can see Wakey come straight back up I think.

I also would not sign Kershaw. In addition to Olpherts with 1 year left we have Roberts, Simpson, lumb, jack smith and we could play Martin at centre and stick momo on wing if needed.

Plus ned Mc.

Kershaw is not good enough and we have plenty coming through the pipe. Rohan needs to stop wasting cap on selling platers.

It’s a big “if”, but if Hudson can come through as a reserve prop and be effective for us there, we aren’t in too bad shape as a squad.

We have changed almost half of the first grade team in one off-season, we’re going to have to see how they perform and which gaps remain. We need to provide pathways for talented younger players especially in the outside backs.

Really interested to see who steps up in 2024 and who we end up letting go.

Would love to see us win one of the youth titles this year. Would give some credence to the theory that we are back in serious business as a youth production line. Just hope the new rules don't ruin the competition at that level.

All in all, not bad.

Tired of the shortcut methods that failed us last year already.
Yes it’s preseason, yes we need some practice yadda yadda but as others have said you have to earn the right to play, yet we went for some ridiculous options instead of doing the basics well. If we can’t or won’t focus on the basics and instead plow forward stubbornly with this corner cutting then we’ll be back in the mire again next year.

Can’t see why some people were expecting Frawley to suddenly be prime Lockyer / Thurston etc when he’s been brought in to be the controlling half. Some of the dummy spitting was hilariously ott. “Get him on a plane back to Aus & take Rohan with him!” Was a highlight.

The kids looked brilliant, well drilled, confident and I’m looking forward to seeing them integrated into the team in the correct manner. A definite highlight.

Still loads to come back in and I’m sure we’ll be all the more better with a serious preseason. Please no more gimmicks, put them to bed, there’s no need to reinvent the wheel.

that's my worry.
not sure a leopard can change its spots though.
time will tell

I do think some are over egging the things like short kick offs - that was quickly dropped last year in the season proper and wasn’t our main issues at all, dumb rugby was a greater issue, I think this new squad has a greater rugby IQ than last years.

Frawley was given way too much unfair stick when he signed, he’ll be a far better player for us than the one he’s replacing.