Give you the DoR job instead of Agar...

Really good post above. Short terms we have limited options, unless we can move some people out and get some people in then we need to get a new coach in and try and build some confidence, performance and structure for the following year.

End of season is a big one for me as we have a lot of people OOC and some others we need to try and move, we need to start that process now.

From OOC

Austin - gone, attitude and type of player just not right. If not good enough for wire then not good enough for us.
Briscoe - gone, has nothing left
Dwyer - gone, symptomatic of why we are in trouble, it’s all just a bit off the cuff with no discipline.
Martin - gone, just doesn’t do enough for me, doesn’t have great size, great hands, doesn’t bang in D
Mellor - just not good enough
Mustapha - gone, just not big enough I am afraid
Thompson - gone, old and not good enough

From those remaining, we should be looking to do the following

Prior - a year too far, retire and back to Aus
Tetevano - thanks Zane but just hasn’t worked, back to Aus
Sezer - no thanks, appreciate we may have no takers but we can hope
Donaldson - not good enough
Sutcliffe - not good enough
Fusitua - undecided, I just don’t think he is what we need and I don’t think he will ever stay fit

Hope to extend O’Connor and Broadbent

That leaves you with

1. Myler and Walker
2. Fusitua and Tindall
3. Newman and Simpson
4. Broadbent and Edwards
5. Handley
6. ?
7. ? and Sinfield
8. Mik and ?
9. Leeming and Johnson
10. Holroyd and ?
11. Bentley and Walters
12. ? and Gannon
13. Smith and O’Connor and field


As a minimum you need to bring in

2 Front line props, I would love English from Hudds and Marty T from NRL for a year or maybe Taukeiaho
2 younger Uk props, I would say Dupree and Scurr
1 big powerful back row from the NRL maybe somebody like Luke Garner, not sure we could get Tariq Sims
Two halves, obv this is the hardest position to get, the most expensive positions. If Sezer had to stay for another year then you would hope with a better platform his game would pick up. Bottom line is I just don’t like his attitude. Who wants a player who only wants to play when his team are on top.
If fusitua left then we would need a good quality outside back who could play centre and wing, somebody like Hiroti from the sharks but again not sure we would get him.

I haven’t named halves as I just really don’t know who we could get. I appreciate I am almost playing football manager above but I do feel we need to make some fairly deep and significant changes, we need to massively change the front row, both numbers and the type of players we bring in. Back row needs to change a little in we need, not so fussed on offloader, much rather have a straight up ground making or line bending back rower. Obv half backs are huge, maybe some older heads and hope sinfield grows into it over next couple of years. Either way it is a huge off season and at the moment not convinced Gary, Agar if he comes back can do the necessary.

Wow, depressing thread very reminiscent of RAB as the wheels were starting to come off, squad weakening, crowds dropping, the club 'at a cross roads'

Hope you can sort yourselves out and the ship steadies. As much as I'd like to see THE derby back a spell 'rebuilding' in the Championship isn't the way to go.

Mellor and Donaldson weren't good enough for Bradford back in the day God knows why you picked them up but once you start signing, regularly, from teams below you you join the very rapidly.

Good Luck!

This was obviously coming. That squad has reduced in quality year on year. We are now far worse playing staff wise than when Murray came to the club in '98.

I never thought McDermott would take the club forward and handle the transition as senior players retired and he didn't. It's no mystery where we are, under McD we had most of our worst seasons overall in SL in terms of consistency week in week out. He squeezed what was left out of the likes of Peacock, Mags etc. (or more accurately they showed what born winners and competitors they were and refused to go quietly) but it was clear when those guys ll finally hung up their boots there was nothing in terms of league form to suggest we were going to be competitive . McD laid the foundations of where we are now and Agar finished the job. However, ultimately it's people at the club (you know who I mean) who let this situation develop in the first place. Has Gary lost the passion for it?

This is the most mediocre side I've seen occupy Leeds shirts since I first started watching the team back in 1982. And that includes the sides that barely avoided relegation. We were completely skint in the 90's when Dean Bell had to pull on a shirt, we don't have that excuse now.

This has been like this too long now to believe that it's a blip or a rebuilding phase. There is something more fundamental that needs changing at the top of the organization. Something fresh and committed, a good coach coming in for two years might save us from complete humiliation but he's not going to rebuild this wreckage.

At the start of this thread I suggested GH needs to step aside - he has been superb for Leeds since he came but we all reach a level of ability and we have to admit that it is time to give way to new ideas. The club is limited to his ability and that is real problem for Leeds at the moment. No successor has been groomed or identified - that is poor for any organisation. Nepotism or positive discrimination e.g. JJB gets an assistant coaching role with no elite level coaching experience - sends out the message that this isn't a meritocracy its a mates club.

The coaching appointment will be compromised by the need to retain the likes of JJB - very unlikely GH is going to give a coach free reign to appoint his own people. Plus they will have to work with Agar as DOR!! Furner went because the club didn't like some home truths - which are there for all to see - which if the rumours are true JJB objected to and deliberately under-mind Furner.

It will be both interesting to see who the coach is and how long it takes to find one.

Social media link to an open letter from GH that doesn't work... Yeah sums it up well.

GH is leaving on a jet plane...
... to fly to Aus to interview people

Which is what he should’ve been doing for over a year.