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Quote: rubber duckie "Sulking.

Now might be the time to make an approach. 2 ways of going, get to wane in as defensive coach or as first team coach.'"


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Shaun Wane, a serial proven winner, isn't going to come to Leeds as a defense coach. Who do we think we are?!

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Quote: batleyrhino "He has many positive attributes, defending (which is critical to Leeds survival hopes this season) isn’t one of them. That’s why he’s not in the NRL.'"


He'd still be an upgrade on Cuthbertson who no longer has the go-forward to make his offloads effective and is no big hitter in the tackle either. But yes, a player who can defend would be better still.

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I can understand people seeing Wane as a solution, but Inpersonally cannot abide the club signing people who have a deep rooted hatred for Leeds. And for that exact reason, Lowes should be nowhere near our club either - those who are unfortunate enough to know him will know he's an Hunslet lad through and through and despises Leeds - has made no secret about it during his times away from the club.
I get these people are professional, so should be able to put their irrational tribalism style hatred to one side for their job, but it just doesn't sit right with me.

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Quote: Mark Laurie "Agree with Biff, we are 10 games in and have been on the slide for 3 years. I know we won in 2017 but other than Cas and Hull, everyone else was rubbish. since 2017 we have lost McGuire, Burrow, Moon, Hall and Delaney and Ablett, JJB & Cuthbo have gone a long way down the mountain.

We nearly went down last year,
Our spine is as a raw and uncoordinated as you can get, a kid at Fb blowing hot and cold , 1 new half who is unfit and has no confidence, Myler who has only been here just over a season and is playing with different key men every week and 2 hookers who are runners / off the cuff merchants.

The pack is the poorest in the league, probably bar London. This is a huge job and I suspect even bigger than Furner would have originally thought.

The defence should be better.

I don't know what is left on the cap but we should be looking at getting in another half to go with Myler as matter of urgency. Offer salford a decent wedge for Hastings, he is only on a 1 year deal. He never stops talking and telling people what to do and that is what our team of mainly cloth-heads need.'"


Good post.

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S Wane went to RU on the same principle as Edwards, lots of money to be made, unfortunately SRFU are skint so he may be an option going forward, but would he come here, he still has the same rubbish to work with, the old saying you can't make a silk purse out of a Sows ear rings true. Look at some of the contracts given out and the players signed. Ablett 2 year deal - busted, Crosby -busted, GOlding 4 year deal playing at Fev, Lilley 4 year deal playing at Bradford, Luke Bisco 3 year deal playing at Fev, Curhbo given a 3 year deal Busted, then we sign players from the bottom of the super league, Albert, Donaldson, we also offered Jordan Thompson a contract and he turned us down. Guys we are really poor with recruiting and no one holds their hands up and takes responsibility. No doubt next week we will be signing Rangi Chase, he is out of his drug ban send SInfield over we can give him a 3 year contract, don't put it past Sinfield because so far his recruitment head been shocking

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Quote: Brodie123 "S Wane went to RU on the same principle as Edwards, lots of money to be made, unfortunately SRFU are skint so he may be an option going forward, but would he come here, he still has the same rubbish to work with, the old saying you can't make a silk purse out of a Sows ear rings true. Look at some of the contracts given out and the players signed. Ablett 2 year deal - busted, Crosby -busted, GOlding 4 year deal playing at Fev, Lilley 4 year deal playing at Bradford, Luke Bisco 3 year deal playing at Fev, Curhbo given a 3 year deal Busted, then we sign players from the bottom of the super league, Albert, Donaldson, we also offered Jordan Thompson a contract and he turned us down. Guys we are really poor with recruiting and no one holds their hands up and takes responsibility. No doubt next week we will be signing Rangi Chase, he is out of his drug ban send SInfield over we can give him a 3 year contract, don't put it past Sinfield because so far his recruitment head been shocking'"


I know youve got something against Sinfield for whatever reason but he didn’t resign half of the players you mention and neglect to mention the 2 players he did sign who have been our best two players.

I don’t particularly agree with him signing Ablett JJB or Briscoe but he gave his reasons for the JJB and Ablett resignings he wanted them to show some leadership and show what the ethos of the club is/was, Crosby has been unfortunate with injuries but may well play a decent role this year when fit.

In a salary capped sport you cannot sign a squad full of superstars or just get rid of contracted players, there have been 11 departures from last seasons squad including a number of players who people on here were desperate to get rid of

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Quote: christopher "I know youve got something against Sinfield for whatever reason but he didn’t resign half of the players you mention and neglect to mention the 2 players he did sign who have been our best two players.

I don’t particularly agree with him signing Ablett JJB or Briscoe but he gave his reasons for the JJB and Ablett resignings he wanted them to show some leadership and show what the ethos of the club is/was, Crosby has been unfortunate with injuries but may well play a decent role this year when fit.

In a salary capped sport you cannot sign a squad full of superstars or just get rid of contracted players, there have been 11 departures from last seasons squad including a number of players who people on here were desperate to get rid of'"



I get on OK with Sinfield like I do with the other Directors, I let them know what I think and why, I work for a firm with a good culture, I employ people and within that culture are staff appraisals, nothing would give me greater pleasure if I could score them all as exceeding their objectives, unfortunately, they have all been underperforming, they need to understand that they need to improve from the very top downwards . I believe that is fair criticism, its nothing personal aimed at Sinfield or others, but the only way they will improve is if they admit their mistakes, at the moment I do see this happening. Please Christopher in all walks of life we are open to criticism, it is how we react to criticism that makes the person and improves the person going forward

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Quote: Brodie123 "I get on OK with Sinfield like I do with the other Directors, I let them know what I think and why, I work for a firm with a good culture, I employ people and within that culture are staff appraisals, nothing would give me greater pleasure if I could score them all as exceeding their objectives, unfortunately, they have all been underperforming, they need to understand that they need to improve from the very top downwards . I believe that is fair criticism, its nothing personal aimed at Sinfield or others, but the only way they will improve is if they admit their mistakes, at the moment I do see this happening. Please Christopher in all walks of life we are open to criticism, it is how we react to criticism that makes the person and improves the person going forward'"


How do you know what’s been said in the boardroom or to the coaching staff and players? do you think they think it’s all going swimmingly?

I’ve said before I do not give a stuff about a a PR piece in the media or them admitting their mistakes to the public, I would prefer them to get on with fixing it.

I employ people aswell and if they make mistakes or are inderperforming we sit down together and figure out why and how we fix it, I don’t tell our clients about it though.

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Quote: Brodie123 "S Wane went to RU on the same principle as Edwards, lots of money to be made, unfortunately SRFU are skint so he may be an option going forward, but would he come here, he still has the same rubbish to work with, the old saying you can't make a silk purse out of a Sows ear rings true. Look at some of the contracts given out and the players signed. Ablett 2 year deal - busted, Crosby -busted, GOlding 4 year deal playing at Fev, Lilley 4 year deal playing at Bradford, Luke Bisco 3 year deal playing at Fev, Curhbo given a 3 year deal Busted, then we sign players from the bottom of the super league, Albert, Donaldson, we also offered Jordan Thompson a contract and he turned us down. Guys we are really poor with recruiting and no one holds their hands up and takes responsibility. No doubt next week we will be signing Rangi Chase, he is out of his drug ban send SInfield ov
er we can give him a 3 year contract, don't put it past Sinfield because so far his recruitment head been shocking'"

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Quote: Brodie123 "I get on OK with Sinfield like I do with the other Directors, I let them know what I think and why, I work for a firm with a good culture, I employ people and within that culture are staff appraisals, nothing would give me greater pleasure if I could score them all as exceeding their objectives, unfortunately, they have all been underperforming, they need to understand that they need to improve from the very top downwards . I believe that is fair criticism, its nothing personal aimed at Sinfield or others, but the only way they will improve is if they admit their mistakes, at the moment I do see this happening. Please Christopher in all walks of life we are open to criticism, it is how we react to criticism that makes the person and improves the person going forward'"

Exactly this.
Lets not also forget we pay our hard earned to follow this club home & away and also the extortionate amount they charge for mostly tat in the way of merchandise.
The recruitment retention & performances have been shocking and way below any kind of transition period.
Those in charge & on the field deserve calling out on it.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "Exactly this.
Lets not also forget we pay our hard earned to follow this club home & away and also the extortionate amount they charge for mostly tat in the way of merchandise.
The recruitment retention & performances have been shocking and way below any kind of transition period.
Those in charge & on the field deserve calling out on it.'"


Brodie was blaming Sinfield for recruitment decisions made before he was at the club as DOR.

The club realised change was needed across the board so it sacked its head coach brought in Sinfield and a new coach changed backroom staff and signed some new players, and cleared some more players out. Now it isn’t going well at the moment and quite rightly the new regime needs to step up but it’s disingenuous to lay the blame on Sinfield especially for the signings he didn’t make.

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Quote: christopher "Brodie was blaming Sinfield for recruitment decisions made before he was at the club as DOR.

The club realised change was needed across the board so it sacked its head coach brought in Sinfield and a new coach changed backroom staff and signed some new players, and cleared some more players out. Now it isn’t going well at the moment and quite rightly the new regime needs to step up but it’s disingenuous to lay the blame on Sinfield especially for the signings he didn’t make.'"

Sinfield re-signed his 2 past it mates Crosby Luke Briscoe Donaldson Llohea & Uncle Albert all shocking calls.
He instigated the departure of Garbutt without signing a replacement when we all knew we'd need at least 2 props and quality ones at that.
2 marquee signings dont overshadow that s#*# show.
Too right Sinfield deserves calling out on it as does GH for letting the swuad stagnate with has beens & never will bees.

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Sinfield - "it is rare in the modern game for any Super League club to sign an international class 23-year-old from the NRL and I am sure he will be a popular addition to our squad." ...hmm. he's been here about 6 months and still in no better shape, how is that possible in a full time training environment?!

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Quote: christopher "How do you know what’s been said in the boardroom or to the coaching staff and players? do you think they think it’s all going swimmingly?

I’ve said before I do not give a stuff about a a PR piece in the media or them admitting their mistakes to the public, I would prefer them to get on with fixing it.

I employ people aswell and if they make mistakes or are inderperforming we sit down together and figure out why and how we fix it, I don’t tell our clients about it though.'"


If things aren't going well the first people to feel it are your clients - if things are going well are the business is making heaps of money your staff apraisals are less problematic.

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