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Re. Handley there are just no better options at present, and he can be OK going forward. Not exactly Ryan Hall I’ll grant you.

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Quote: KaeruJim "Re. Handley there are just no better options at present, and he can be OK going forward. Not exactly Ryan Hall I’ll grant you.'"


He's crap. Most average wingers in the league are still very good finishers. He's a crap finisher. So even given the chances he doesn't take it often enough.

Your right the options are limited, but that doesn't hide him offering nothing.

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he's not exactly jim fallon.....

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Agree with that Mark.
He is the least of our worries.
Not brilliant but not poor either.
The halves and the forwards are championship quality at best.
Our defence is shocking and the messiah has made some poor decisions since he took over.
But we do have a lovely stand.

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It's not his finishing, it's his hands that worry me. Every time he takes ball into contact, you wince expecting it to come free.

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we all know he's nowhere near good enough but like mark says at present we have bigger issues

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Quote: tad rhino "we all know he's nowhere near good enough but like mark says at present we have bigger issues'"


He might be low on worries right now in comparison to the halfs and forwards, but it is still a problem. You cant just say we need to plan for going forward in some positions, and ignore others. He is not the future, and therefore he is every bit the problem as the halfs and forwards are. Even just an half decent winger would excel outside Hurrell. He's had a lot of games now and nothing, so give the next poor option a go.

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What`s the winger like from Carnegie ? Niko or something.
Ex RL player and has size and pace apparently.
Most of this years squad are looking for new clubs as wage cuts hit.

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Quote: FGB "It's not his finishing, it's his hands that worry me. Every time he takes ball into contact, you wince expecting it to come free.'"


And rushing in from his position. Highlighted acutely by Hulls first try when Nadolo had a run in cause Handley had a brain explosion.

Is Joe Vickery still a free agent?

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Quote: chapylad "What`s the winger like from Carnegie ? Niko or something.
Ex RL player and has size and pace apparently.
Most of this years squad are looking for new clubs as wage cuts hit.'"


Elijah Niko - used to play for the Storm.

Worth a punt i'd say.

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We need a new prop. Yea Handley is a big downgrade, especially from Ryan Hall, but a new winger won’t turn our season around. Sam Kasiano would be ideal, instead he makes his Catalans debut against us.

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I just feel that the pack is always #1 priority. An average back line can look good when given consistent momentum and field position, and a good back line can be made to look very average when playing compressed and spending the majority of the time in D.

It's not the case that we don't need to improve the squad across the park, of course we do, but if it comes down to limited resources then the pack is still the first port of call. However it does depend on player availability too, and if the right winger became available, fair enough. The point is that we can't just continue panic buying and barrel scraping, and expect a better result. We require considered, longer-term planning with recruitment, and a better success rate of securing our targets. That's pretty tough when you're committed to existing employment contracts, the team is out of form and the crowd is booing them.

Ablett and Crosby may yet add something to the pack this season. To be fair, with Peteru and Oledzski stepping up, the front row hasn't been as abject as it might have been, but we still don't have great rotations and lack consistent threat carrying the ball and in D in the middle.

I still think we will win against Cats because I think the pressure being applied to the players is affecting performances, and going over there might galvanise them. The team have actually played better away from home that at home this season on the whole.

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Quote: Gotcha "He might be low on worries right now in comparison to the halfs and forwards, but it is still a problem. You cant just say we need to plan for going forward in some positions, and ignore others. He is not the future, and therefore he is every bit the problem as the halfs and forwards are. Even just an half decent winger would excel outside Hurrell. He's had a lot of games now and nothing, so give the next poor option a go.'"

That's ridiculous to throw Handley into the mix with the pack & HB problems. Every game we've lost has stemmed from HB's not working behind a weak pack.
90% of the cheap penalties we concede are by the forwards. Our lack of attacking threat comes fr9m the HB's not having ebough to create more either with ball in hand or a consistent kicking game.
All of that is out of a wingers remit yes we could have better but like i said he's the least of our worries.

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Quote: RHINO-MARK "That's ridiculous to throw Handley into the mix with the pack & HB problems. Every game we've lost has stemmed from HB's not working behind a weak pack.
90% of the cheap penalties we concede are by the forwards. Our lack of attacking threat comes fr9m the HB's not having ebough to create more either with ball in hand or a consistent kicking game.
All of that is out of a wingers remit yes we could have better but like i said he's the least of our worries.'"


Really Mark? You saw last weeks game as an example? You might be right on the forwards and halfs, but don't try and make out Handley didn't bomb a couple of try's last week, just by being pure poop. That was a win without that crapness, so please don't tell me it is wrong to put him in the mix. It is ridiculous to suggest otherwise, unless it only apply's to certain players.

The point is, he is crap, and if we are going to call for youngsters to play instead of other players to plan for the future, then why is that role ignored also? I find the whole comments completely hyprocritical. I accept wing is not the be all and end all, but if we are talking about positions needing changing, that is one, just like the others that definitely requires it.

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As someone said, our pack needs strengthening big time, but our halves are killing us. Dreadful kicking game. McClelland needs a shot.

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