| FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > OUT 2020 | Jamie Jones-Buchanan - Retirement |
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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "Really? He was solid in the GF wins, but never a standout. McGuire and Burrow played major roles in wins. As did Sinfield. In terms of impact in one or more GFs he'd be behind the likes of JP, Leuluai, Lauti'iti, Diskin, Ablett, Webb, Lee Smith, Donald, Senior and Hardaker. He'd be in any 17 'best of' team to reflect the era, and his contribution shouldn't be overlooked, but lets not pretend he was as influential as some others.
Every successful team has players fans like and the rest of the squad value highly both on and off-field. Some are lucky and play in very successful teams, others just don't (I'm thinking Roy Powell here for some reason, but Dave Heron and many others would qualify).'" #
where would he be in the 17 back rows ahead of him furner, sinfield , ali , ellis , morley , glanville |
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We were talking golden generation so Morley and glanville don't qualify. Furner played one gf so JJB definitely ahead of him. Sinfield would be 6 in my team of the era. He also played a far bigger role than Ellis, so yes when talking golden generation JJB is a must.
In terms of total career he'd be ahead of everyone on your list with only Ali of forwards you've listed near him.
Other than that you're spot on.
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[b:3v5chy3z]Brian McDermott paraphrased Peter Fox.
"He'd say if we had 13 Bernard Dwyers we wouldn't lose many RL games. It's the same for us with JJB"[/b:3v5chy3z]:38511.jpg |
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "If JJB is a legend what are Sinfield and McGuire?'"
i always knew that jonesy was a legend  |
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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango
FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS.
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Jonesy is going to work for the foundation and so is Lee Smith joining g Brett Delaney. What do they all do ?
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| Quote: Jonesy's a Legend "i always knew that jonesy was a legend ![]()
Great club servant - who made a valuable contribution to the glory years - a legend not on the field - very similar to Nathan Massey for me a good solid performer who gave it 100% every time he took the field.
Legend should be reserved for players of exceptional ability whose quality sets them apart from their peer group e.g. Danny McGuire.
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He was way better than Massey at his best
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Quote: lionarmour87 "Jonesy is going to work for the foundation and so is Lee Smith joining g Brett Delaney. What do they all do ?'"
Quite a lot and its a very successful venture, having Ex Players working for it is a great way to get people engaged with the foundation.
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Quote: lionarmour87 "Jonesy is going to work for the foundation and so is Lee Smith joining g Brett Delaney. What do they all do ?'"
Quite a lot and its a very successful venture, having Ex Players working for it is a great way to get people engaged with the foundation.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "He was way better than Massey at his best'"
Agreed but then Sinfield and McGuire are on a different planet to the likes of Gale - so the comparison is about right. |
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Great club servant - who made a valuable contribution to the glory years - a legend not on the field - very similar to Nathan Massey for me a good solid performer who gave it 100% every time he took the field.
Legend should be reserved for players of exceptional ability whose quality sets them apart from their peer group e.g. Danny McGuire.'"
Some of that i agree but JJB was a 20 year club man who was a mainstay of that period. Larger than life character who will long be remembered and talked about in 20/30/40 years time so i would say he is a club legend. All time great on the other hand; no. |
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "Some of that i agree but JJB was a 20 year club man who was a mainstay of that period. Larger than life character who will long be remembered and talked about in 20/30/40 years time so i would say he is a club legend. All time great on the other hand; no.'"
Will he be remembered as a lager than life character or as a really top player? Comparisons to the likes of Morley, Ellis & Ali do him no favours in quality terms. When it comes to effort and endeavour - unmatched. |
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| Quote: Sal Paradise "Will he be remembered as a lager than life character or as a really top player? Comparisons to the likes of Morley, Ellis & Ali do him no favours in quality terms. When it comes to effort and endeavour - unmatched.'"
Both. He was a top player, international squad standard between 05-11 and he was consistently a 7/10 player. A level below the 3 you mentioned who were world class but i still think his longevity, success and complete devotion to the club merit the label of club legend but i appreciate it's opinions. |
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| Quote: Biff Tannen "Both. He was a top player, international squad standard between 05-11 and he was consistently a 7/10 player. A level below the 3 you mentioned who were world class but i still think his longevity, success and complete devotion to the club merit the label of club legend but i appreciate it's opinions.'"
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For me, JJB came into his own in the 2007 season, and really stood out as an attacking player that year and for the next two years or so, to the point that he was outshining the likes of Lauitiiti in a lot of performances. After that IIRC he became more of a workhorse (and occasional penalty machine). 2007 was also the year when JJB grew the beard, and Jamie Thackray was famously axed because he wouldn't work on his poor ball-retention in training.
Another season that sticks out is 2006 - another underachieving year, despite Peacock signing. JJB was played at prop in some games by Tony Smith and didn't really make an impact.
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