I would hope that when Furner arrives he weighs and measures what is required with recruitment and what he thinks he can turn round in coaching.

Once this is done, I would expect him to then use the link with Sir Kev to hammer out what he wants/needs, how badly and when. It would then be Sir Kevs job to go out and achieve these or maybe even turn round and say we cant/wont do that.

I would expect that until Furner arrives this is purely conjecture as until he sees the scale of the job, weighs it up and hammers out a plan WITH Sinfield / GH et al that were all in the dark.

What I would say when MM came in at Wigan, he went from top to bottom of that club and made sure all age groups, coaches and teams were all pulling in the same direction and singing off the same hymm sheet. This is what we need at Leeds. Weve been far too disjointed for too long.

I would agree that this is essential but would see it as Sinfield's role not Furner's.

I agree and I would be shocked if he isn't already looking at that, he has said there is a ton of work going on in the background

I would see this as a dual role.

Furner to set the standards required and Sinfield to make sure that they are not only achieved, but maintained.

You are right, Sinfield is going to have his hands full with this and ATEOTD its his responsibility to make sure they are attained.

I agree with your agreement. My original post was aimed at tempering those who were willing a root & branch overhaul by Furner, only 2 months after hailing Sinfield's appointment to do just that.

Furner and Sinfield need to work together to define the playing style and standards that the club will aspire to, regardless of which team within the club. They need to work out a series of actions and KPI's to measure the performance against the defined standards and have an action plan to get us to the right level. The action plan should include anything from conditioning, to coaching methods, to player recruitment and retention. Different people will be responsible for individual parts, but Sinfield should be responsible for the whole.

It's called management.

'Off the cuff' is polite for pretty clueless.

I was going to add that but thought i would wait for someone else to project it

To be fair that style works, as it did for us in massive games, when you have the playing staff to do it. When you don't, well the evidence has been there for all to see.

I'd actually argue "off the cuff" isn't "off the cuff". To play that style of rugby you need to first be able to at least hold your own in the forwards, and generate quick ptb's. This comes by design, both in conditioning and application of technique. What people often call "off the cuff" is actually the selective application of particular tactics and then a flood of support for the ball carrier.

What Cas do so well is play the kind of attacking structure where Gale has three (or more) truly viable options (not people half d jogging up to the line) and then he selects the one that the defence will find hardest to deal with given their position and numbers for that particular tackle. To do this you need a very fit, disciplined (in terms of position and line of run) and committed pack/backs and a smart half who can disguise his play until the last moment.

We are a million years away from this with any of our halfback options, or those coming in too I think.

We need to go for simple percentage structure which won't be exciting but will give us a platform to build from as we recruit better quality players so we can play more "flashy" stuff

Ok Mark maybe JJB and Delaney were more than average but not in my opinion quality.
Didn`t I hear somewhere that Sinfield had been talking to Furner for over 2 months now about player recruitment and what was needed for the team well before the announcement was made?
Let`s hope that was a frank honest chat and we look to spend as much of the cap as we have available.

I agree with the last sentence we need quality additions.

According to Frosties thread, there are 7 players OoC at the end of this year who's future isn't yet decided or hasn't been announced:

Carl Ablett
Brett Delaney
JJB
Jimmy Keinhorst
Anthony Mullally
Jordan Thompson
Josh Walters

If we can get replacements for them all they could leave for me. In Furner we trust...