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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "It seems that you've got quite a lot of growing up to do.'"


If you can't deal with fan rivalry go watch badminton, I would have thought someone who has constantly criticised the south stand for certain chants would be against fans throwing things at players during a match, but apparently thats okay (as long as it is against Leeds of course) icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: leedsnsouths "If you can't deal with fan rivalry go watch badminton, I would have thought someone who has constantly criticised the south stand for certain chants would be against fans throwing things at players during a match, but apparently thats okay (as long as it is against Leeds of course)
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Quote: leedsnsouths "Okay I wont paint you all with the same brush, Ill just say that any fan that throws things at players (especially during a game) are scum, as are any players who swear at and intimidate opposition fans, fair enough?

Maybe you are right, calling people scum is pathetic, btw what is it your fans were singing over and over again last night
You do realise that the exact same things are being levelled at your own fans/players, so are you saying Leeds are scum too? In fact you should listen to the Shaun Wane interview on Wigan TV about the treatment and abuse he received from Leeds fans after the game. Unlike yourself though he doesn't make a big deal about it and, rather, says it adds to the experience of playing there and why he likes the Leeds games.

As one of your own says: maybe you just have a lot of growing up still to do.

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Quote: Phuzzy "You do realise that the exact same things are being levelled at your own fans/players, so are you saying Leeds are scum too? In fact you should listen to the Shaun Wane interview on Wigan TV about the treatment and abuse he received from Leeds fans after the game. Unlike yourself though he doesn't make a big deal about it and, rather, says it adds to the experience of playing there and why he likes the Leeds games.

As one of your own says

What I did definitely see is Wigan fans throwing things at Leeds players during a game, something that I have yet to see any Wigan fan admit is absolutely disgraceful. If there is no retrospective action either to the individuals or to the Wigan club, it sets a very dangerous precedent.

I did not see Leeds fans trowing things (feel free to prove me wrong), they were calling Wigan players divers and cheats at the end, but nothing worth writing home about, if any Leeds fans did throw things at players they should be banned for life from Headingly.

Fans shout things at opposition players all the time, its part of what makes the great tribal atmosphere you can get in RL games and I have no problem at all with Wigan fans shouting things at Leeds players, it is expected.

What is not expected is for players so shout things back or scream in fans faces. SO'L and Leuluai showed their sportsmanship and class by how they acted when being escorted to the dressing room, a few of your other players should try following their example.

EDIT: before you say it I know that plenty of Leeds players have intentionally wound up opposition fans in the past (essentially what Tomkins and Bateman were doing), this imo is unsportsmanlike but okay, what I saw from a couple of Wigan players was a lot more aggressive and in close proximity, it just stood out to me as classless and unprofessional behaviour

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Quote: The Ghost of '99 "I'll let other clubs deal with their morons. The south stand chavs I can see and hear every week.'"


Go watch polo then, no peasants to offend your eyes there m'lord

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Fans Forum 28.08.08 Fan from Haydock "I've got one word for you Mr Chairman - Penalty Count" [quote="The Daddy"]I've got one word for you all......Steve Hanley[/quote] Some Salford fan said to me and I quote "You are by far and away the most Handsome & Knowledgeable Rugby League Fan in England!" I thanked him and went on my Merry way! RIVERCAVE DWELLER OF THE YEAR 2015! "The club used you last night and didn't tell the truth." Officially one of the 119 Mugs used by the club:icons077e_files/5454-3678dentheman-msnicons.jpg



Quote: leedsnsouths "Go watch polo then, no peasants to offend your eyes there m'lord'"


Oh dear icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: leedsnsouths "

Oh dear oh dear

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Quote: leedsnsouths "Go watch polo then, no peasants to offend your eyes there m'lord'"

Have to agree with leedsnsouths on this one. Supporting a sports team generally involves a lot of passion and emotion. Fans have always and will always sing songs and use exaggerated language that include emotive (hate, scum etc), strong and offensive words. I'm pretty sure nobody actually wants to get a gun and shoot anybody, it's just a song - it's all part of the theatre/pantomime.
Those that take such offense or who publicly criticise people for using this type of language at a sports event are either ultra snowflakes or more likely on a crusade to try and prove that they're somehow more intelligent/a better person than those involved. Either way, it's pretty pathetic.

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Quote: lionarmour87 "look mate I know all about the south sand ,but surely you've heard the universal chant ? ' WE ALL HATE LEEDS ' and much of the time there is that expletive included'"


In answer to your earlier post, yes, I am very sure it was the one third section of the south stand.

Highlighted words = zero expletives. Admittedly, any person that Hates another RL club has some personal issue.

South Stand chant, as pointed out in my earlier post included a very audible expletive.

The issue here is not what other clubs fans do, its the holier then thou attitude that SOME (not the majority) of Leeds fans have when a decent section of one stand is chanting offensive drivel in what is projected as a family game.

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Quote: leedsnsouths " I do ***king hate Wigan, and I'll sing about it if I want, just like any other fan can sing about hating Leeds (although you guys realise that most Leeds fans find the song 'We all hate Leeds scum' pretty funny given it is so old it is embarrassing)'"


I suggest you seek some professional help.

Don't bother responding, you have made it blatantly clear you are not fundamentally decent enough to converse with.

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Quote: Superted "Have to agree with leedsnsouths on this one. Supporting a sports team generally involves a lot of passion and emotion. Fans have always and will always sing songs and use exaggerated language that include emotive (hate, scum etc), strong and offensive words. I'm pretty sure nobody actually wants to get a gun and shoot anybody, it's just a song - it's all part of the theatre/pantomime.
Those that take such offense or who publicly criticise people for using this type of language at a sports event are either ultra snowflakes or more likely on a crusade to try and prove that they're somehow more intelligent/a better person than those involved. Either way, it's pretty pathetic.'"


A spur of the moment outburst is slightly different to organised chanting, would you not agree.

Its not about Snowflakery, its about setting an example to younger generations of fans. Are you happy that kids (under 12's) are exposed to this type of environment, with out challenge, to accept it as the norm?

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I’m by no means suggesting that Lilley is some finished article SL player but given the choice of moon and Lilley I’d like to see him have a go as Moon is just a passenger there. He can certainly read the game better than moon who just kills space. Lilley also got injured at Leigh and returned to Leeds for treatment.

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Soon we will be dancing the Fandango FROM 2004,TO DO WHAT THIS CLUB'S DONE,IF THATS NOT GREATNESS THEN I DONT KNOW WHAT IS. JAMIE PEACOCK:



" WE ALL HATE LEEDS ,WE ALL HATE LEEDS ,WE ALL HATE LEEDS ," "ALL LEEDS ARENT WE ,ALL LEEDS ARENT WE,ALL LEEDS ARENT WE ' . there is feeling between these two clubs and not just the fans .

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Quote: Mild mannered Janitor "A spur of the moment outburst is slightly different to organised chanting, would you not agree.

Its not about Snowflakery, its about setting an example to younger generations of fans. Are you happy that kids (under 12's) are exposed to this type of environment, with out challenge, to accept it as the norm?'"


Absolutely I'm fine with my kids being exposed to that type of environment, because they're taught what is acceptable and at what times. It's words, that's all.. sticks and stones and all that. There are things that are acceptable to be said and done in different environments and as a parent, it's my job to make sure my kids know what is appropriate and when. Kids don't need to be wrapped in cotton wool all the time.

There are lots of things that go on in the real world that I wouldn't want my kids to do and there's no way I can stop them from witnessing a lot of it, but what I can do is teach them to make informed decisions on what is right and wrong. If you're relying on everyone else to behave in an acceptable manner for fear of them being influenced or to stop your kids behaving badly, you've lost the battle already.

I'd say anyone who has followed the game on this forum since a child and into adulthood has heard and seen much worse over the years (particularly 20/30/40 years ago when racism/homophobia etc were almost the norm), yet not been scarred or had their behaviours influenced by it. We're not all racist, homophobes because we heard some nasty chanting at the rugby. (By no way am I suggesting racism/homophobia is acceptable by the way).

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Quote: lionarmour87 "" WE ALL HATE LEEDS ,WE ALL HATE LEEDS ,WE ALL HATE LEEDS ," "ALL LEEDS ARENT WE ,ALL LEEDS ARENT WE,ALL LEEDS ARENT WE ' . there is feeling between these two clubs and not just the fans .'"


I have no problem with the above, pro your own team and anti the opposition chants are part of the "match day experience". I do object to swearing (repetative and full throttle rather than the occasional exasperated utterance) throwing stuff at players and pathetic attempts to intimidate opposition fans and players. RL is promoted as a family sport and as such needs to maintain a family friendly environment. I believe on the whole our sport does that, and long may it continue.

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