Printer, I mean this with sincerity, but I think you need to stay away for a bit and take some rest. You are found out on here daily of late. Here you are again making things up, and it just seems to be a daily occurance. From saying you are at matches whilst at home on here, or saying you are the only one allowed to post something heard. It's not like it is to do with me, I can count at least six other posters who have formed out your mis postings in arguments with you over last couple of weeks alone.

Your constant hole digging in defence of the indefensible is just destroying you mate. Go away take a rest and come back when you remember what you have said, and then what others have, rather than manufactured stuff like above. And for your information, there are countless posters on here who I have messaged with privately who could confirm I have at times been miles away from complimentary of Mr Hardaker. Things just seem to eat away at you, and you can't let it go. I have said before you are like a child who needs the last word.

Get of your high horse.

Just because some of what you hear is questioned and called on when incorrect you get so defensive and bitchy. You're hardly one to talk about having disagreements with others on here and I'm far from the only person who has shown you up to be wrong with one of your "in the loop" stories.

Despite what you claim about you are always defending Hardaker on here, he can do no wrong and when he f**ks up its the club's fault so no wonder you've never been able to handle hearing his slated whether it's for on or off field reasons.

If you want to join the other two sad acts in believing I don't attend the matches I say I do then so be it.....you just sound really petty and pee'd off because I've dared counted something you've wrote. I've always been honest about what games I've attended or not. No I didn't go to HKR or Hudds away last year. I won't be going to the Magic weekend and probably not Warrington away the following week as barring the odd one I admit my away games are usually just the West Yorkshire based ones......unlike others on here I don't need to lie. Those people need to work out why a mobile phone is called a MOBILE phone.

No one makes more up on here than you, you get called on some and when it goes wrong you change your story or claim you didn't write that. You get some correct and you think that makes every rumour you post true when it clearly isn't.

Maybe you should go away for a while and come back when you've stopped being driven by trying to look better than everyone on here. Your view that I have been proven wrong on here on a daily basis just because you disagree with me and not fact is clear evidence of this.

Like I said, like a little petulant child, and you go prove it all over again. Your a lost cause mate, but I did genuinely mean it when I said take a break, because you do come across a little unstable. Your obviously an intelligent chap, and do make good points, but you just have this little man syndrome and things eat away at you. Get well soon. Hugs and kisses.

its a good thread this, but Gotcha you oscillate between obvious evasion and overly specific, just leave yourself a bit of wiggle room and you could carry on playing with him and not have to finish quicker than Ferris when the a car pulls up outside.

I know you don't attend the games you say you do because your comments reflect the comments of the commentators on Sky - unless you are watching the game on Sky Go at the game which I doubt very much the only way you can make those comments is because you not actually at the game but watching on TV.

You might think we are very stupid and your crass comments will deflect attention away from the reality but the only idiot is you - even after it was pointed out to you you couldn't resist posting whilst watching on TV. Better to shut up and everyone think you a fool than put your fingers to keyboard and confirm it.

Ive heard the same (or similar) as Gotcha that theres 2 players "unsettled". One is apparently wanting out over a disagreement with McDermott and I know who that one is. The other I'd just heard isn't happy and "thinking" of leaving but I don't know who it is or why.

As for the one I know about (or have been told about) if it's true then it's a bit of 50/50 in my view. Because the player in question has had warnings about his attitude and professionalism in the fairly recent past.

How would you know if my comments matched the Sky commentators if you were at the games?

And I can't recall posting "go for the 1 pointer or chip over the top" or that my posts sound just like Phil Clarke who is usually anti-Leeds and I'm accused of being too rose tinted Leeds. I don't think anybody on here posts in a similar style to the guff they sprout.

Admit it, you incorrectly assumed that if someone posts on here they must be doing it from a laptop or computer.....completely overlooking that you can be posting on here off your mobile phone.

That you think someone is unstable because they don't agree with your views or challenges you....on a message board....says a lot more about you than it does me.

You may aswell have just said his name ahah.

Seriously though, I like McDermott but this is all just getting a bit too much and to be as bad as we are at current surely suggests to me that either there's something wrong with the coaching, or the players don't want to play for the coach. Either way if this is the case..... It's the coach that has to go for me

I imagine that Hardaker and Watkins would get plenty of offers if they were free. Others would get offers but if any of the team go to market they may be surprised at how much lower any offers may be than they were a year ago. A playing career of 10 years is a lot - to have a full year playing dreadfully is really a big chunk of your working life.

Yeah I agree I can imagine Watkins and Hardaker still being able to attract pretty much similar offers to 12 months ago regardless of their form. With Watkins it's not like SL is full of quality centres that people wouldn't want to snap him up and hope to get him playing at his best. If we are just talking SL clubs then I could see Koukash happily throwing big money at them to make a headline signing, whether they'd want to go there or to a team who presented them we stronger title winning chances is another question though.

Suppose with other players it could come down to timing/luck. If a club really needs to fill a certain position (like we needed a 2nd rower when Ferres became available and others like Wigan and Wire were strong in that position) and they have some cash to splash then they could still sign for a decent price. One example and again with regards to the strength of centres in SL, Joel Moon would be an attractive buy for many and he's missed enough of the campaign that it really shouldn't count against him and I think Cuthbertson's stock is still quite high from his showings last year and his ridiculous unmatchable amount of offloads.

Just a shame when differences of opinion get so personal.

I take all rumour with a pinch of salt but it would be no surprise if some players get unsettled when big success turns to big failure in such a short space of time. Neither would it be a surprise if the reason for players being allegedly disgruntled was down to money. In any squad there will be personality clashes and not everyone will like the boss but in sport a player makes his case with his performances.

Of the players mentioned only Baldwinson deserves much sympathy as he has not had the first team chances this year and I do believe he cannot have been worse than Achurch even if played out of position. Singleton has been the least effective prop this year so I see why he has not earned a place above Mullally but I felt he reached a plateau last season however props can be slow developers.

With regard to Hardaker and Watkins they both have badly let down the fans, the coach and teammates especially the youngsters. Because their bad form has gone on for so long it is reasonable to look for off field reasons which again usually comes down to money or feeling hard done or undervalued. Hardaker has only had a few games on the wing so that is not a reason to be unset with the coach given his form. Watkins has put in effort in defense but has lost it in attack apart from a purple patch against Catalans. Maybe time to move both on while we can we still can get a decent transfer fee.

Of course it could be the Aussies who want out as they are not enjoying it at Headingley!

It's not the obvious one! At least he's not the one I was told about anyway.

Alleging people have mental health issues, then patronising them.

Wow. You're all the classy, aren't you?

Meant in a genuine way, and genuine advice to take a break from it. Could you classy fella say the same about hoping the ref would die in a car crash last year? Or do we even mention your colourful past? don't even go there Andy.