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Can see my predictions propping up the bottom!!

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Quote: Fat Boy "1. Saint Helens
2. Wigan Warriors
3. Warrington Wolves
4. Castleford Tigers
5. Leeds Rhinos
6. Salford Red Devils
7. Huddersfield Giants
8. Catalan Dragons
9. Widnes Vikings
10. Hull FC
11. Hull Kingston Rovers
12. Wakefield Trinity Wildcats

Final Top 4 play-off teams
Saint Helens
Wigan Warriors
Warrington Wolves
Leeds Rhinos


4 Returning to Super League
Widnes Vikings
Bradford Bulls
Featherstone Rovers
Hull FC

Grand Final Winners - Wigan
Challenge Cup Winners - Saint Helens'"


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Looking at the predictions I'd say Warrington were the 'best' rated. Most had them top or top 2. No one had them outside the top 4.

Leeds made a mockery of a few who put them 6th.

A few of us placed too much hope In Salford and underestimated Cas achieving despite their losses.

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Cannot remember if I entered this time....but it will be embarrassing if I did.

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Quote: craigizzard "It's tricky, but what I would suggest is the "usual" scoring system for the selections after 23 rounds (ie. 0 points for getting the selection correct, 3 points for being 3 positions out etc.)

Then MINUS two points for each of the top 4 correctly positioned (MINUS one point for getting a top 4 team right but in the wrong position), MINUS one point for each of the "returning to SL" teams correctly identified, and MINUS three points for each of the GF and CC winners.

Lowest score wins. (I'll be nowhere near.)'"


Good work. I'll use this to construct a table - just as soon as I get the chance.

This has been the Vulcan's final flying season (final Vulcan - indeed final four jet engined all British design and build - flight was in fact today (Wed) so I'll shortly be getting some of my spare time back again. This season's rugby records are basically still on paper so already got a job on.

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First off while I get my head around how to work in the post Round 23 elements I thought we could have a look at the table in the form it has follwed in the past: so results as at Round 23 only:

1) All entries must contain 12 unique and/or clearly identifiable teams

2) Scoring System: Correct position scores 0, 1 away from correct position scores 1, 2 away scores 2 etc

The aim is to achieve the lowest score. Tie-Break - In order of most correct positions (which is shown in brackets on the table) - then in date order of entry if still tied.

Any mistakes highlighted will be corrected once checked.

30-Jan-15 ….. 16 (3) ….. Smokey TA

03-Feb-15 ….. 18 (3) ….. Andy Gilder

28-Dec-14 ….. 20 (4) ….. Him
05-Jan-15 ….. 20 (4) ….. Highbury Rhino
29-Dec-14 ….. 20 (3) ….. finglas
03-Feb-15 ….. 20 (3) ….. Old Feller
05-Feb-15 ….. 20 (3) ….. Jamie101
30-Jan-15 ….. 20 (1) ….. pokerface

05-Feb-15 ….. 22 (5) ….. ducknumber1
01-Jan-15 ….. 22 (4) ….. Gotcha
31-Jan-15 ….. 22 (4) ….. Stozza's Nose
03-Feb-15 ….. 22 (4) ….. rodhutch
29-Dec-14 ….. 22 (3) ….. Fat Boy
01-Feb-15 ….. 22 (3) ….. steve slippery morris
03-Feb-15 ….. 22 (3) ….. The Eagle
27-Dec-14 ….. 22 (2) ….. Jonesy's a Legend
28-Dec-14 ….. 22 (2) ….. The Biffs Back
10-Jan-15 ….. 22 (2) ….. batleyrhino
14-Jan-15 ….. 22 (2) ….. Garry Schofield

28-Dec-14 ….. 24 (3) ….. Sal Paradise
01-Jan-15 ….. 24 (2) ….. tad rhino
19-Jan-15 ….. 24 (2) ….. D4mo78
01-Feb-15 ….. 24 (2) ….. Northern Boys
02-Jan-15 ….. 24 (1) ….. Bullseye
05-Feb-15 ….. 24 (1) ….. loiner81

05-Feb-15 ….. 26 (5) ….. tvoc
28-Dec-14 ….. 26 (3) ….. Toosmooth
14-Jan-15 ….. 26 (3) ….. BRK
28-Dec-14 ….. 26 (2) ….. rhinoms
03-Jan-15 ….. 26 (2) ….. priest
06-Jan-15 ….. 26 (2) ….. tigertot
03-Jan-15 ….. 26 (1) ….. ThePrinter

13-Jan-15 ….. 28 (3) ….. Biff Tannen
29-Dec-14 ….. 28 (2) ….. Damo-Leeds
05-Jan-15 ….. 28 (1) ….. Clearwing

08-Jan-15 ….. 30 (2) ….. deslawson
29-Dec-14 ….. 30 (1) ….. Ferdy
03-Jan-15 ….. 30 (0) ….. Vespid_Wire

30-Jan-15 ….. 32 (3) ….. 3141MickSpencer
28-Dec-14 ….. 32 (1) ….. craigizzard

*Remember this is only after the initial 23 Rounds and not the final table, which hopefully will be around later today but if not before the weekend.

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1) All entries must contain 12 unique and/or clearly identifiable teams

2) Scoring System for table covering 23 RegularRoundsSmokey TA ….. 16 (3) ….. -7 (1) ….. 9

2 ….. 05-Jan-15 ….. Highbury Rhino ….. 20 (4) ….. -9 (2) ….. 11
3 ….. 29-Dec-14 ….. finglas ….. 20 (3) ….. -9 (2) ….. 11
4 ….. 03-Feb-15 ….. Andy Gilder ….. 18 (3) ….. -7 (0) ….. 11

5 ….. 05-Feb-15 ….. loiner81 ….. 24 (1) ….. -11 (4) ….. 13
6 ….. 27-Dec-14 ….. Jonesy's a Legend ….. 22 (2) ….. -9 (2) ….. 13
7 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. Him ….. 20 (4) ….. -7 (1) ….. 13
8 ….. 30-Jan-15 ….. pokerface ….. 20 (1) ….. -7 (1) ….. 13

9 ….. 05-Feb-15 ….. ducknumber1 ….. 22 (5) ….. -8 (1) ….. 14
10 ….. 01-Feb-15 ….. steve slippery morris ….. 22 (3) ….. -8 (1) ….. 14

11 ….. 03-Feb-15 ….. Old Feller ….. 20 (3) ….. -5 (0) ….. 15

12 ….. 31-Jan-15 ….. Stozza's Nose ….. 22 (4) ….. -6 (0) ….. 16
13 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. The Biffs Back ….. 22 (2) ….. -6 (0) ….. 16
14 ….. 05-Feb-15 ….. Jamie101 ….. 20 (3) ….. -4 (0) ….. 16

15 ….. 01-Jan-15 ….. Gotcha ….. 22 (4) ….. -5 (1) ….. 17
16 ….. 29-Dec-14 ….. Fat Boy ….. 22 (3) ….. -5 (1) ….. 17
17 ….. 03-Feb-15 ….. The Eagle ….. 22 (3) ….. -5 (0) ….. 17
18 ….. 03-Feb-15 ….. rodhutch ….. 22 (3) ….. -5 (0) ….. 17
19 ….. 10-Jan-15 ….. batleyrhino ….. 22 (2) ….. -5 (0) ….. 17

20 ….. 19-Jan-15 ….. D4mo78 ….. 24 (2) ….. -6 (1) ….. 18
21 ….. 02-Jan-15 ….. Bullseye ….. 24 (1) ….. -6 (1) ….. 18

22 ….. 29-Dec-14 ….. Damo-Leeds ….. 28 (2) ….. -9 (2) ….. 19
23 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. Toosmooth ….. 26 (3) ….. -7 (1) ….. 19
24 ….. 01-Jan-15 ….. tad rhino ….. 24 (2) ….. -5 (1) ….. 19
25 ….. 01-Feb-15 ….. Northern Boys ….. 24 (2) ….. -5 (0) ….. 19

26 ….. 03-Jan-15 ….. ThePrinter ….. 26 (1) ….. -6 (1) ….. 20

27 ….. 13-Jan-15 ….. Biff Tannen ….. 28 (3) ….. -7 (1) ….. 21
28 ….. 05-Feb-15 ….. tvoc ….. 26 (5) ….. -5 (0) ….. 21
29 ….. 03-Jan-15 ….. priest ….. 26 (2) ….. -5 (1) ….. 21
30 ….. 14-Jan-15 ….. BRK ….. 26 (3) ….. -5 (0) ….. 21
31 ….. 06-Jan-15 ….. tigertot ….. 26 (2) ….. -5 (0) ….. 21
32 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. Sal Paradise ….. 24 (3) ….. -3 (0) ….. 21

33 ….. 05-Jan-15 ….. Clearwing ….. 28 (1) ….. -6 (0) ….. 22
34 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. rhinoms ….. 26 (2) ….. -4 (0) ….. 22
35 ….. 14-Jan-15 ….. Garry Schofield ….. 22 (2) ….. 0 (0) ….. 22

36 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. craigizzard ….. 32 (1) ….. -7 (1) ….. 25
37 ….. 29-Dec-14 ….. Ferdy ….. 30 (1) ….. -5 (0) ….. 25

38 ….. 03-Jan-15 ….. Vespid_Wire ….. 30 (0) ….. -4 (0) ….. 26

39 ….. 30-Jan-15 ….. 3141MickSpencer ….. 32 (3) ….. -4 (1) ….. 28

40 ….. 08-Jan-15 ….. deslawson ….. 30 (2) ….. 0 (0) ….. 30



*There was a little latitude given this year with it being a new format with an assumption that both batleyrhino and Biff Tannen intended their 1-4 to also count as their Play-Off predictions (full predictions otherwise) and to Old Feller with his 8-11 + Leigh read as 9-11 + Leigh.

**The provided Garry Schofield wasn't a full entry in terms of the new format adopted here but included as reference - similarly deslawson was included but both only really relevant on the 1st table provided yesterday.

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So congrats to Smokey TA - our 2015 Champion – and all those who took part

Total numbers were down this year - losing 24 and gaining/regaining 8 - hopefully numbers will upturn for the next comp when it reappears sometime between Christmas and New Year.

Thanks to Jonesy's a Legend for instigating and not letting it fade away and this year also to craigizzard for providing an easy to follow scoring system which hopefully will endure unti the next RFL upheaval which is never far away.



Pevious season's results can be reviewed here:
2012 Results - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=515106&tsmp=1347265976&start=113
2013 Results - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=542167&tsmp=1378768527&start=82
2014 Results - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=562758&start=120
1) All entries must contain 12 unique and/or clearly identifiable teams

2) Scoring System for table covering 23 RegularRoundsSmokey TA ….. 16 (3) ….. -7 (1) ….. 9

2 ….. 05-Jan-15 ….. Highbury Rhino ….. 20 (4) ….. -9 (2) ….. 11
3 ….. 29-Dec-14 ….. finglas ….. 20 (3) ….. -9 (2) ….. 11
4 ….. 03-Feb-15 ….. Andy Gilder ….. 18 (3) ….. -7 (0) ….. 11

5 ….. 05-Feb-15 ….. loiner81 ….. 24 (1) ….. -11 (4) ….. 13
6 ….. 27-Dec-14 ….. Jonesy's a Legend ….. 22 (2) ….. -9 (2) ….. 13
7 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. Him ….. 20 (4) ….. -7 (1) ….. 13
8 ….. 30-Jan-15 ….. pokerface ….. 20 (1) ….. -7 (1) ….. 13

9 ….. 05-Feb-15 ….. ducknumber1 ….. 22 (5) ….. -8 (1) ….. 14
10 ….. 01-Feb-15 ….. steve slippery morris ….. 22 (3) ….. -8 (1) ….. 14

11 ….. 03-Feb-15 ….. Old Feller ….. 20 (3) ….. -5 (0) ….. 15

12 ….. 31-Jan-15 ….. Stozza's Nose ….. 22 (4) ….. -6 (0) ….. 16
13 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. The Biffs Back ….. 22 (2) ….. -6 (0) ….. 16
14 ….. 05-Feb-15 ….. Jamie101 ….. 20 (3) ….. -4 (0) ….. 16

15 ….. 01-Jan-15 ….. Gotcha ….. 22 (4) ….. -5 (1) ….. 17
16 ….. 29-Dec-14 ….. Fat Boy ….. 22 (3) ….. -5 (1) ….. 17
17 ….. 03-Feb-15 ….. The Eagle ….. 22 (3) ….. -5 (0) ….. 17
18 ….. 03-Feb-15 ….. rodhutch ….. 22 (3) ….. -5 (0) ….. 17
19 ….. 10-Jan-15 ….. batleyrhino ….. 22 (2) ….. -5 (0) ….. 17

20 ….. 19-Jan-15 ….. D4mo78 ….. 24 (2) ….. -6 (1) ….. 18
21 ….. 02-Jan-15 ….. Bullseye ….. 24 (1) ….. -6 (1) ….. 18

22 ….. 29-Dec-14 ….. Damo-Leeds ….. 28 (2) ….. -9 (2) ….. 19
23 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. Toosmooth ….. 26 (3) ….. -7 (1) ….. 19
24 ….. 01-Jan-15 ….. tad rhino ….. 24 (2) ….. -5 (1) ….. 19
25 ….. 01-Feb-15 ….. Northern Boys ….. 24 (2) ….. -5 (0) ….. 19

26 ….. 03-Jan-15 ….. ThePrinter ….. 26 (1) ….. -6 (1) ….. 20

27 ….. 13-Jan-15 ….. Biff Tannen ….. 28 (3) ….. -7 (1) ….. 21
28 ….. 05-Feb-15 ….. tvoc ….. 26 (5) ….. -5 (0) ….. 21
29 ….. 03-Jan-15 ….. priest ….. 26 (2) ….. -5 (1) ….. 21
30 ….. 14-Jan-15 ….. BRK ….. 26 (3) ….. -5 (0) ….. 21
31 ….. 06-Jan-15 ….. tigertot ….. 26 (2) ….. -5 (0) ….. 21
32 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. Sal Paradise ….. 24 (3) ….. -3 (0) ….. 21

33 ….. 05-Jan-15 ….. Clearwing ….. 28 (1) ….. -6 (0) ….. 22
34 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. rhinoms ….. 26 (2) ….. -4 (0) ….. 22
35 ….. 14-Jan-15 ….. Garry Schofield ….. 22 (2) ….. 0 (0) ….. 22

36 ….. 28-Dec-14 ….. craigizzard ….. 32 (1) ….. -7 (1) ….. 25
37 ….. 29-Dec-14 ….. Ferdy ….. 30 (1) ….. -5 (0) ….. 25

38 ….. 03-Jan-15 ….. Vespid_Wire ….. 30 (0) ….. -4 (0) ….. 26

39 ….. 30-Jan-15 ….. 3141MickSpencer ….. 32 (3) ….. -4 (1) ….. 28

40 ….. 08-Jan-15 ….. deslawson ….. 30 (2) ….. 0 (0) ….. 30



*There was a little latitude given this year with it being a new format with an assumption that both batleyrhino and Biff Tannen intended their 1-4 to also count as their Play-Off predictions (full predictions otherwise) and to Old Feller with his 8-11 + Leigh read as 9-11 + Leigh.

**The provided Garry Schofield wasn't a full entry in terms of the new format adopted here but included as reference - similarly deslawson was included but both only really relevant on the 1st table provided yesterday.

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So congrats to Smokey TA - our 2015 Champion – and all those who took part

Total numbers were down this year - losing 24 and gaining/regaining 8 - hopefully numbers will upturn for the next comp when it reappears sometime between Christmas and New Year.

Thanks to Jonesy's a Legend for instigating and not letting it fade away and this year also to craigizzard for providing an easy to follow scoring system which hopefully will endure unti the next RFL upheaval which is never far away.



Pevious season's results can be reviewed here:
2012 Results - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=515106&tsmp=1347265976&start=113
2013 Results - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=542167&tsmp=1378768527&start=82
2014 Results - viewtopic.php?f=17&t=562758&start=120


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Many thanks for doing the scoring yet again tvoc,i don't mind reeling the comp out every year as that is the easy part, whereas how you work those scores out is well out of my league pal

i can't fathom as to why so many regular posters on southsatander freely tell everyone how it is after the event but don't wish to offer their opinions prior to the season started in what is only a "bit of fun competition",perhaps they can be referred to as hind site experts

perhaps some posters take themselves far too seriously?

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Thanks tvoc, and well done Smokey TA.

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Just checking the scoring. I think I should have got -11

Top four -3 points plus -2 points for correct placing
middle 8's -3 points
GF winners -3 points
Total -11 points

Am I missing something

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Quote: finglas "Just checking the scoring. I think I should have got -11

Top four -3 points plus -2 points for correct placing
middle 8's -3 points
GF winners -3 points
Total -11 points

Am I missing something'"


Top four only an additional -1 for a correct placing and you only had Wigan in 2nd

Middle 8's points only awarded to teams coming up that appeared in them, ie you had to first predict a SL team placing 9-12 therefore you scored -2 in that category for Hull KR and Widnes.

(BTW SmokeyTA would have also gained an extra point for Hull FC staying in SL)

That's how I scored everyone - we can debate if the scoring system needs tweeking for next season.

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Quote: tvoc "Top four only an additional -1 for a correct placing and you only had Wigan in 2nd

Middle 8's points only awarded to teams coming up that appeared in them, ie you had to first predict a SL team placing 9-12 therefore you scored -2 in that category for Hull KR and Widnes.

(BTW SmokeyTA would have also gained an extra point for Hull FC staying in SL)

That's how I scored everyone - we can debate if the scoring system needs tweeking for next season.'"


Cheers TVOC sorry for doubting you.

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14! Will take that. My placing predictions were far off at the top and after the split in particular. Just seen it now - thanks for doing it.

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Cheers tvoc

I assume the cheque is in the post right?

I look forward to taking my rightful place in mid/lower table next year.

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20:00
Huddersfield
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Castleford
20:00
Wigan
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Salford
 Fri 20th Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R29
10:50
Cronulla
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NQL Cowboys
       Championship 2024-R27
19:30
Sheffield
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York
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
20:00
Hull KR
v
Leeds
20:00
Leigh
v
St.Helens
20:00
Warrington
v
LondonB
 Sat 21st Sep
     National Rugby League 2024-R29
10:50
Sydney
v
Manly
     Mens Super League XXVIII-R27
15:00
Hull FC
v
Catalans
       Championship 2024-R27
18:00
Featherstone
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Dewsbury
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Widnes
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Wakefield
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Barrow
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Widnes
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Bradford
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Swinton
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Thu 19th Sep
SL
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Huddersfield-Castleford
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Wigan-Salford
Fri 20th Sep
SL
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Hull KR-Leeds
SL
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Leigh-St.Helens
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Sat 21st Sep
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Hull FC-Catalans
Sun 27th Oct
MINT2024
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England M-Samoa M
Sat 2nd Nov
MINT2024
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England M-Samoa M
Sun 15th Sep
WSL2024 14 FeatherstoneW6-32York V
WSL2024 14 Hudds W36-0Wire W
CH 26 Barrow34-14Whitehaven
CH 26 Bradford16-14Batley
CH 26 Dewsbury16-28Swinton
CH 26 Doncaster30-14Widnes
CH 26 Featherstone6-20Sheffield
CH 26 Wakefield20-4York
NRL 28 Canterbury22-24Manly
L1 23 Midlands24-22Workington
L1 23 Rochdale30-18Hunslet
Sat 14th Sep
SL 26 Hull FC4-58Salford
SL 26 Catalans12-8LondonB
SL 26 Huddersfield0-66Warrington
CH 26 Toulouse38-18Halifax
NRL 28 Melbourne37-10Cronulla
NRL 28 NQL Cowboys28-16Newcastle
Fri 13th Sep
SL 26 Leigh0-24Hull KR
SL 26 St.Helens40-4Castleford
SL 26 Wigan38-0Leeds
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 26 657 336 321 42
Hull KR 26 693 311 382 40
Warrington 26 684 319 365 38
Salford 26 550 483 67 32
St.Helens 26 584 370 214 30
Leigh 26 548 386 162 29
 
Leeds 26 514 462 52 28
Catalans 26 451 423 28 28
Huddersfield 26 434 648 -214 18
Castleford 26 415 701 -286 15
LondonB 26 317 862 -545 6
Hull FC 26 324 870 -546 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 24 892 256 636 46
Bradford 24 618 373 245 32
Toulouse 23 662 340 322 31
Sheffield 24 594 472 122 28
Widnes 24 513 433 80 27
York 25 613 439 174 26
 
Featherstone 24 566 472 94 26
Doncaster 24 470 527 -57 23
Batley 24 378 513 -135 20
Halifax 24 475 617 -142 20
Barrow 23 418 648 -230 19
Swinton 24 446 606 -160 18
Whitehaven 24 414 806 -392 16
Dewsbury 25 308 821 -513 2
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