FORUMS FORUMS






RLFANS.COM
Celebrating
25 years service to
the Rugby League
Community!
  
FORUMS > Leeds Rhinos > Rumours Thread 2014
113 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
RankPostsTeam
International Star6848No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jul 201212 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2024Jul 2021LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
68072_1442575000.jpg
What you looking at?....Butt Head!!:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_68072.jpg



Regarding Morgan Smith, it says in League Weekly that Warrington and hot on his heels for his signature as Smith has got himself an agent and is open to the highest offer.

TBH I havn't seen the lad play so couldn't comment on wether he is worth busting the bank for.

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member17230No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
3043_1291817917.jpg
#frostiesbitches We know who you are.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3043.jpg



Quote: Biff Tannen "Regarding Morgan Smith, it says in League Weekly that Warrington and hot on his heels for his signature as Smith has got himself an agent and is open to the highest offer.

TBH I havn't seen the lad play so couldn't comment on wether he is worth busting the bank for.'"



He is worth busting the bank for.

I am lead to believe though, although different position, that Cameron Smith is the best player of his age, and who everyone wanted and wants.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3101No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2018Jul 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
38041_1320825214.jpg
:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_38041.jpg



How do you bust the bank on a kid?
Throw £££££ at him whilst he is out of the 1st team therefore not yet on the salary cap? Then what happens once he hits 1st grade? Is his house/car already made for him from before?
It can turn daft. Sold to the biggest idiot.

RankPostsTeam
International Star10No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
May 201411 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Oct 2014Jun 2014LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



It's a tough call on whether Leeds have developed any potentially top class halves. There are a smattering of Leeds products in Super League now and in the past (Luke Gale, Scott Murrell, did Tansey start as a half back?) who had to drop down a division for a while before stepping back up...that of course will not have aided their development and who knows how they'd have faired staying in a full time environment at a top class club?

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member17230No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 200222 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2024Nov 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
3043_1291817917.jpg
#frostiesbitches We know who you are.:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_3043.jpg



Quote: RhinoNeil "How do you bust the bank on a kid?
Throw £££££ at him whilst he is out of the 1st team therefore not yet on the salary cap? Then what happens once he hits 1st grade? Is his house/car already made for him from before?
It can turn daft. Sold to the biggest idiot.'"



I am a big believer that busting the bank with regards young outstanding players, has nothing to do with cash. It's all about opportunities and the path they are on.

For me every big club will be offering nothing different to potential stars in terms of short term money, money will be the same at each club. However opportunities is what changes that money value in the medium to long term.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach9730No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200817 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2017Mar 2017LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
39092.jpg
Ryan Bailey (11/11/83) - The Most Feared Man In Super League The Most Feared Man In Super League (TMFMISL) * Coined by thebloodbath * Inspired by Bailey *:39092.jpg



does Super League need these lightning fast, eye catching halves anymore? so do they need to be developed.

Leeds have won plenty of titles with solid pivots and Wigan are doing the same.

Just a thought.

G1
RankPostsTeam
International Chairman32302No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Feb 200223 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Nov 2018Oct 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
982.jpg
[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj] Kevin Sinfield:982.jpg



Quote: FlexWheeler "No.


RankPostsTeam
Player Coach3813No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Jun 200816 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2020Feb 2020LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



It's an exception rather than a rule that young halfbacks break into the team in the pivot positions. The most talented kids will probably be playing their junior rugby at 6 but have to learn the ropes in another position before moving to the middle. This has applied to Holmes, Schofield, Hanley, Edwards, Harris, Lockyer, Kenny and a lot more. Hardaker, Moon, Sutcliffe and Ward are all in that template of junior stand-offs who may one day step back in, while the next kid off the rank slots in at centre or back row. Scrum-half is a bit different. We could do with finding one ready-made over the next few years.

RankPostsTeam
International Star4239No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Mar 201312 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Jul 2024Jun 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

实事求是!:



Quote: G1 "Then you're actually as stupid as your recent posts would suggest you are.'"


Nice response icon_rolleyes.gif

No doubt leeds will not produce any wingers, centres or fullbacks of any quality for the next decade, the reasons for that being self evident.

RankPostsTeam
International Star81No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Oct 201311 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Mar 2016Mar 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

:



Has Clark signed yet?

RankPostsTeam
International Board Member28186No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Apr 200322 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Aug 2016Aug 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
Transparent Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif
"As you travel through life don't sweat the petty things and don't pet the sweaty things" - George Carlin [url:2cg5oc2o]http://twitter.com/AndyGilder[/url:2cg5oc2o] [url:2cg5oc2o]http://fromthewesternterrace.blogspot.co.uk[/url:2cg5oc2o] This week: Four keys to a Rhinos win in the WCC:Transparent Backgrounds/Waldorf.gif



If Smith has an agent, I'm hoping for his sake it isn't Show Me The Money agency.

All about the bottom line and their cut, not what is best for the player in terms of his career development from what I've heard.

DHM
RankPostsTeam
Player Coach8893
JoinedServiceReputation
May 200618 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Apr 2024Apr 2024LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
25511_1478008518.jpg
"Well, I think in Rugby League if you head butt someone there's normally some repercusions":d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_25511.jpg



Quote: craigizzard "It's an exception rather than a rule that young halfbacks break into the team in the pivot positions. The most talented kids will probably be playing their junior rugby at 6 but have to learn the ropes in another position before moving to the middle. This has applied to Holmes, Schofield, Hanley, Edwards, Harris, Lockyer, Kenny and a lot more. Hardaker, Moon, Sutcliffe and Ward are all in that template of junior stand-offs who may one day step back in, while the next kid off the rank slots in at centre or back row. Scrum-half is a bit different. We could do with finding one ready-made over the next few years.'"


Hardaker would be my best guess to move to 6 in the next couple of seasons (if we can keep hold of him). Sutcliffe is still so young, John Holmes had several years of first team experience before he moved to 6 full time. Personally I think Sutcliffe with his size, would end up at 13 before he ended up at 6 ( maybe the Sinfield path).
It would be interesting to see Moon get a run at 6, I remember the days of centre/stand offs like John Woods, Mike Smith, Steve Donlan, Neil Hague, Dave Creasser, Schoey and of course JH himself. Are we at a point now though where a 6 is not so much an essential pivot and more a high speed support player and lethal finisher?

RankPostsTeam
International Star11412No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 201014 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2021Jul 2019LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature

"The Golden Generation finally has its Golden Fleece! They have Wembley Cup Final winners medals to add to their collection." 23/08/2014:



Think we've some options to move to 6 in a few years like others have mentioned in Sutcliffe, Moon and Hardaker already plus whoever else might come along from the Academy.

It remains me of who would replace Webb at FB. A new signing? Lee Smith? BJB? Hardaker?

On that occasion it was the latter and I wouldn't be surprised if it was the same guy again this time.

Sutcliffe (6) could be like BJB (FB), touted for one role coming through the ranks but as time moves on they look better in another role in the team.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach19234No
Team
Selected
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Feb 2016Feb 2016LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
35376_1277564281.gif
[img:35s0tdes]http://i84.servimg.com/u/f84/12/34/74/45/lr200913.gif[/img:35s0tdes]:d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_35376.gif



If Hardaker switches to 6 or worse departs then the FB shirt will go to Ashton Golding should he continue his development and realise his undoubted potential the kid at the moment is electric and still only 17.

RankPostsTeam
Player Coach11658
JoinedServiceReputation
Sep 200717 years
OnlineLast PostLast Page
Sep 2018Aug 2018LINK
Milestone Posts
0
100
Milestone Years
0510 1520 2530
Location
Signature
35138.jpg
Fat people are harder to kidnap.:35138.jpg



Quote: Andy Gilder "If Smith has an agent, I'm hoping for his sake it isn't Show Me The Money agency.

All about the bottom line and their cut, not what is best for the player in terms of his career development from what I've heard.'"


I sincerely hope what you've heard is wrong as they currently have Danny McGuire, Zak Hardaker, Thomas Minns, Alex Foster, Liam Sutcliffe, Brad Singleton, James Duckworth, Elliot Minchella, Josh Sunley and Ben White on their books.

113 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>
113 posts in 9 pages 
<<   PREV  NEXT   >>



All views expressed are those of the author and not necessarily those of the RLFANS.COM or its subsites.

Whilst every effort is made to ensure that news stories, articles and images are correct, we cannot be held responsible for errors. However, if you feel any material on this website is copyrighted or incorrect in any way please contact us using the link at the top of the page so we can remove it or negotiate copyright permission.

RLFANS.COM, the owners of this website, is not responsible for the content of its sub-sites or posts, please email the author of this sub-site or post if you feel you find an article offensive or of a choice nature that you disagree with.

Copyright 1999 - 2024 RLFANS.COM

You must be 18+ to gamble, for more information and for help with gambling issues see https://www.begambleaware.org/.



Please Support RLFANS.COM


4.18701171875:5
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Dual Reg
financialtim
10
3m
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
19m
How many games will we win
Khlav Kalash
12
44m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
walter wall
4026
51m
Film game
karetaker
5647
Recent
Castleford sack Lingard
FOREVERTRIN
9
Recent
Accounts
Greg Florimo
135
Recent
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
3
Recent
2024
Big lads mat
10
Recent
Fixtures 2025
Jake the Peg
67
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
49s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
50s
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
karetaker
11
1m
Accounts
Greg Florimo
135
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63226
1m
Fixtures 2025
Jake the Peg
67
1m
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
3
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40737
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
1m
Castleford sack Lingard
FOREVERTRIN
9
1m
How many games will we win
Khlav Kalash
12
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Big lads mat
10
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Khlav Kalash
12
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
TF and the w
13
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
610
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
537
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1281
England's Women Demolish The W..
1110
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1350
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1139
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1405
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1940
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2153
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2397
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1963
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2203
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2667
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2098
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2170
POSTSONLINEREGISTRATIONSRECORD
19.65M 1,981 80,15514,103
LOGIN HERE
or REGISTER for more features!.

When you register you get access to the live match scores, live match chat and you can post in the discussions on the forums.
RLFANS Match Centre
 Thu 13th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Wigan
v
Leigh
 Fri 14th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
20:00
Hull KR
v
Castleford
20:00
Catalans
v
Hull FC
 Sat 15th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Leeds
v
Wakefield
17:30
St.Helens
v
Salford
 Sun 16th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R1
15:00
Huddersfield
v
Warrington
 Thu 20th Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Wakefield
v
Hull KR
 Fri 21st Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
20:00
Warrington
v
Catalans
20:00
Hull FC
v
Wigan
 Sat 22nd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
15:00
Salford
v
Leeds
20:00
Castleford
v
St.Helens
 Sun 23rd Feb 2025
     Mens Super League XXX-R2
14:30
Leigh
v
Huddersfield
 Sun 2nd Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
04:30
Penrith
v
Cronulla
06:30
Canberra
v
NZ Warriors
 Thu 6th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
09:00
Sydney
v
Brisbane
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Hull FC
v
Leigh
 Fri 7th Mar 2025
     National Rugby League 2024-R1
07:00
Wests
v
Newcastle
09:00
Dolphins
v
Souths
     Mens Super League XXX-R3
20:00
Castleford
v
Salford
20:00
St.Helens
v
Hull KR
ALL SCORES PROVIDED BY RLFANS.COM (SETTINGS)
Matches on TV
Thu 13th Feb
SL
20:00
Wigan-Leigh
Fri 14th Feb
SL
20:00
Hull KR-Castleford
SL
20:00
Catalans-Hull FC
Sat 15th Feb
SL
15:00
Leeds-Wakefield
SL
17:30
St.Helens-Salford
Sun 16th Feb
SL
15:00
Huddersfield-Warrington
Thu 20th Feb
SL
20:00
Wakefield-Hull KR
Fri 21st Feb
SL
20:00
Warrington-Catalans
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Wigan
Sat 22nd Feb
SL
15:00
Salford-Leeds
SL
20:00
Castleford-St.Helens
Sun 23rd Feb
SL
14:30
Leigh-Huddersfield
Thu 6th Mar
SL
20:00
Hull FC-Leigh
Fri 7th Mar
SL
20:00
Castleford-Salford
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Hull KR
Sat 8th Mar
SL
17:30
Catalans-Leeds
Sun 9th Mar
SL
17:30
Warrington-Wakefield
SL
17:30
Wigan-Huddersfield
Thu 20th Mar
SL
20:00
Salford-Huddersfield
Fri 21st Mar
SL
20:00
St.Helens-Warrington
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Mens Betfred Super League XXVIII ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wigan 29 768 338 430 48
Hull KR 29 731 344 387 44
Warrington 29 769 351 418 42
Leigh 29 580 442 138 33
Salford 28 556 561 -5 32
St.Helens 28 618 411 207 30
 
Catalans 27 475 427 48 30
Leeds 27 530 488 42 28
Huddersfield 27 468 658 -190 20
Castleford 27 425 735 -310 15
Hull FC 27 328 894 -566 6
LondonB 27 317 916 -599 6
This is an inplay table and live positions can change.
Betfred Championship 2024 ROUND : 1
 PLDFADIFFPTS
Wakefield 27 1032 275 757 52
Toulouse 26 765 388 377 37
Bradford 28 723 420 303 36
York 29 695 501 194 32
Widnes 27 561 502 59 29
Featherstone 27 634 525 109 28
 
Sheffield 26 626 526 100 28
Doncaster 26 498 619 -121 25
Halifax 26 509 650 -141 22
Batley 26 422 591 -169 22
Swinton 28 484 676 -192 20
Barrow 25 442 720 -278 19
Whitehaven 25 437 826 -389 18
Dewsbury 27 348 879 -531 4
Hunslet 1 6 10 -4 0
RLFANS Recent Posts
FORUM
LAST
POST
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
2m
Dual Reg
financialtim
10
3m
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
19m
How many games will we win
Khlav Kalash
12
44m
DoR - New Coach - Investor & Adam - New signings
walter wall
4026
51m
Film game
karetaker
5647
Recent
Castleford sack Lingard
FOREVERTRIN
9
Recent
Accounts
Greg Florimo
135
Recent
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
3
Recent
2024
Big lads mat
10
Recent
Fixtures 2025
Jake the Peg
67
FORUM
LAST
VIEW
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
49s
ALL NEW 49ERS ERA LEEDS UTD THREAD
tad rhino
2593
50s
Wigan v Wire in Vegas
karetaker
11
1m
Accounts
Greg Florimo
135
1m
BORED The Band Name Game
Boss Hog
63226
1m
Fixtures 2025
Jake the Peg
67
1m
Red Devils sign International forward
Huddersfield
3
1m
Game - Song Titles
Boss Hog
40737
1m
TV Games - Not Hull
UllFC
3080
1m
Castleford sack Lingard
FOREVERTRIN
9
1m
How many games will we win
Khlav Kalash
12
FORUM
NEW
TOPICS
TOPIC
POSTER
POSTS
TODAY
2024
Big lads mat
10
TODAY
Dan Norman Retires
Cokey
1
TODAY
How many games will we win
Khlav Kalash
12
TODAY
Leigh Leopards - 2025 Fixtures
ColD
2
TODAY
Catalan Away
Dannyboywt1
6
TODAY
2025 Betfred Super League Fixtures
RLFANS News
1
TODAY
2025 fixtures
Smiffy27
15
TODAY
Fixtures
Willzay
13
TODAY
Salford
TF and the w
13
TODAY
WCC Off
Choc Ice
11
TODAY
Leeds away first up
Big lads mat
49
TODAY
Jake McLoughlin
Wanderer
1
TODAY
Assistant Coach - Langley
exiledrhino
30
TODAY
Noah Booth out on loan
Big lads mat
22
TODAY
Luke Gale testimonial match
BarnsleyGull
2
TODAY
England 5 - 0 Ireland
Sadfish
1
TODAY
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To Newcastle
RLFANS News
1
NEWS ITEMS
VIEWS
2025 Betfred Super League Fixt..
610
Magic Weekend 2025 - Back To N..
537
England Beat Samoa To Take Tes..
1281
England's Women Demolish The W..
1110
England Beat Samoa Comfortably..
1350
Operational Rules Tribunal –..
1139
IMG-RFL club gradings released..
1405
Wakefield Trinity Win Champion..
1940
Hunslet Secure Promotion After..
2153
Trinity Into Play Off Final Af..
2397
Wigan Warriors Crowned Champio..
1963
York Valkyrie Win Back to Back..
2203
Hunslet Book Relegation Play O..
2667
Penrith Panthers Secure Fourth..
2098
Wigan Humiliate Leigh For Gran..
2170


Visit the RLFANS.COM SHOP
for more merchandise!