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first half we drew you into an arm wrestle but 2nd half you used the width really well and had to much pace for us.
it was great to see so many away fans for a change too.

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shockingly, playing a hooker at hooker means we play better.

RB is a great player, but he needs to be coming on against a tired defense to exploit his pace and agility. Aiton gives us solidity and structure, which is what we need early doors.

Also good to see Singo start and Kylie come off the bench - as it should be.

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I fort Paul aiton changed the game when he came on for you today direct and organised picked the right options and always there looking for the off load

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bring on wire.....they looked clueless without Briers the other night

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I really like your new away shirt, think Welham prefers the back of it tbf.. icon_wink.gif

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Quote: bishops finger "first half we drew you into an arm wrestle but 2nd half you used the width really well and had to much pace for us.
it was great to see so many away fans for a change too.'"



It was great not to be stuck behind the grassy knoll, waiting for the light from the game to reach us.

Nice new stand though. Sort out that open end, and you've got a cracking ground now.

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Brian McD said that Paul Aiton had taken a knock to his ankle hence the lack of game time today but should be ok for next week.

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he left the ground in a protective boot

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Quote: Norman Stanley Fletcher "Brian McD said that Paul Aiton had taken a knock to his ankle hence the lack of game time today but should be ok for next week.'"
why play him at all then

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Quote: The Eagle "why play him at all then'"


I believe he means Aiton suffered the knock in the actual game.

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Quote: ThePrinter "I believe he means Aiton suffered the knock in the actual game.'"

Yet another casualty of McDermott overplaying players. When will he learn.

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Quote: Him "Yet another casualty of McDermott overplaying players. When will he learn.'"


Now now!!! You know you aren't allowed to mock/criticise/challenge those who dislike McDermott.

Damn him for starting with Leuluai and Bailey whilst Singleton and Clarkson started on the bench, bloody caving into player power again.

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So I was just checking out the stats for our "weaker pack"

Singleton - 18 carries - 120 metres - 6.67 mpc
Peacock - 17 carries - 105 metres - 6.18 mpc
Delaney - 14 carries - 78 metres - 5.57 mpc
Ablett - 16 carries - 87 metres - 5.45 mpc
Clarkson - 10 carries - 47 metres - 4.7 mpc
Bailey - 7 carries - 57 metres - 8.14 mpc
Leuluai - carries - 57metres - 8.14mpc

7 players - 551 metres (78.7 metres per forward)

Weyman - 13 carries - 92 metres - 7.08 mpc
Poore - 7 carries - 67 metres - 9.57 mpc
Langley - 14 carries - 100 metres - 7.14 mpc
Larroyer - 11 carries - 64 metres - 5.81 mpc
Costigan - 7 carries - 47 metres - 6.71 mpc
A. Walker - 7 carries - 62 metres - 8.86 mpc
J. Green - 11 carries - 74 metres - 6.73 mpc
J. Walker - 6 carries - 33 metres - 5.5 mpc

8 players - 539 metres (67.4 metres per player)

To say that's where most Rovers fans thought they would beat us they surely have to walk away pretty dissapointed.

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Quote: Harrigan "So I was just checking out the stats for our "weaker pack"

Singleton - 18 carries - 120 metres - 6.67 mpc
Peacock - 17 carries - 105 metres - 6.18 mpc
Delaney - 14 carries - 78 metres - 5.57 mpc
Ablett - 16 carries - 87 metres - 5.45 mpc
Clarkson - 10 carries - 47 metres - 4.7 mpc
Bailey - 7 carries - 57 metres - 8.14 mpc
Leuluai - carries - 57metres - 8.14mpc

7 players - 551 metres (78.7 metres per forward)

Weyman - 13 carries - 92 metres - 7.08 mpc
Poore - 7 carries - 67 metres - 9.57 mpc
Langley - 14 carries - 100 metres - 7.14 mpc
Larroyer - 11 carries - 64 metres - 5.81 mpc
Costigan - 7 carries - 47 metres - 6.71 mpc
A. Walker - 7 carries - 62 metres - 8.86 mpc
J. Green - 11 carries - 74 metres - 6.73 mpc
J. Walker - 6 carries - 33 metres - 5.5 mpc

8 players - 539 metres (67.4 metres per player)

To say that's where most Rovers fans thought they would beat us they surely have to walk away pretty dissapointed.'"



Highlights how stats can be misleading, without seeing the actual game to back it up.

I am a huge fan of Singleton and the need for him involved as much as possible. But Peacock was head and shoulders the best forward on the park by some distance. The next best forward IMO was the Rovers 24, I think was Green? A youngster. I don't need the stats to tell me that.

Those stats also don't show you some of those metres for certain players were as a result of being put clean through a gap for a break. Or in the cases of Bailey and Kylie, the return of many kick offs.

It would have also being more interesting to see defensive stats too. The Rovers pack seemed to do a much better job in this department than the score suggested, as it was the backs leaking the scores.

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Stats are historical reviews and shouldn't be used in isolation for projecting arguments. They can be a useful tool for motivations and structuring training or maybe tactics.

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