No, it is not relevant to the point under discussion.
We were talking about the service the centre gives the winger.
You made the point that Hall got more tries with Hardaker at centre than with Ablett at centre.
As scoring more points is the whole point of the game, then the return on the partnership is, I agree, the acid test.
But that proves absolutely nothing about who fed Hall better... and that was the point under discussion.


Sure, Hardaker scored tries as centre and that's great.
In fact, Hall fed Hardaker some of those and that's great too.
But that is not the issue under discussion ... we were talking about the centre feeding the winger and, so far, you have proved nothing in that context.

If you wanted to say that the centre feeding the winger is not always essential, you would have a point and should say that.
Instead you point at the number of tries scored by 4 and 5 as if that proves that 4 fed 5, which it patently does not.

The fact remains that Moon has great parts of his game .... feeding his winger is not one of them.

How does Moon's try scoring record stack up against the likes of Ablett and Hardaker when they were playing left centre?

Is Hall perhaps not seeing as much ball close to the line because Moon is backing himself and getting over the line by using his winger as a decoy?

Another reason Hall's tries have decreased IMO is that teams over commit to stop our left side. This leaves acres of space which we have started taking advantage of since Bish and Watkins teamed up again. They have both the pace and understanding to exploit that space. With a genuine strike threat on each side it is now going to be harder for teams to counter those threats.

More like half backs not servicing the centres ! If Hall played for Hull Kr of Wigan he would have scored twice as many tries this season, IMO of course !

I think there is some truth in this.We have been playing with a patched up right side for most of the season so it wouldnt have taken much thinking for coaches to come up with a game plan to neutralise our strongest flank when the other is not going to offer anywhere near the threat.

I think the relationship between Moon and Hall will get more of a chance to blossom in the coming weeks and into the playoffs due to our right side now looking just as potent.

Hall ruled out tonight due to illness. Sutcliffe moved onto the wing, Singleton to loose and Foster on the bench.

Jimmy K has a bad arm injury

sky sports have just said that he has dislocated his shoulder so season over for jimmy then !

Just got back it was another game we won without having to go through the gears.
We scored some decent tries but again made some awful errors and conceded 3 simple tries imo.
Great to see Young Minchella get over on debut and he did ok luckily although Sutcliffe was named on the RW he lined up as RC and had a good game.
Finally the Ref G.Stokes wow is all i can say another official who only sees 1 team infringe at the ptb but lets the opposition have as long as they want to clear the ruck missed some blatant high tackles for both sides right in front of him and Clarkson knocked a Salford pass down 3 yards forward when he was stood 3 foot away and waved play on!!
God help us if this the "new breed" of SL officials.

Something tells me I'm onto something good.

It should be "into".

"Something tells me I'm into something good"

Hermans Hermits from the days when songs had a tune you could whistle to.

Centre could well be Sutcliffe's best position. His skill set, so far, shows everything needed for a star centre.

I think you could be on to something here. It was certainly a stroke of luck last night that Hall took ill, which forced the changes it did. Sutcliffe was a bit of a revelation in this new role, although he did swap with Watkins often.

By the way Rhinoms, I don't think the ref was that bad last night. Inconsistent at times as you said, but seen much worse.

Some good performers for Leeds last night, some poor. What we have been seeing all year. Thought Hardaker was brilliant.

It is into

Blame the time and "tiredness"