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| Quote: BrisbaneRhino "
Just on Sutcliffe, if he's been told to concentrate on his passing that IMO is a good thing. Far too many young halfbacks are stars in juniors because they can run and get through gaps on their own. As a result they never develop the most basic skill of a halfback - passing.'"
I suspect there is a lot of truth in this. A running game is largely, I believe, a gift you are born with, and relies on your physical attributes. You can work on it and refine it, but you can't teach it.
A passing game is something altogether more technical, so it makes sense to make sure the lad is working hard on it in the relatively early days of his senior career. He looks a great talent, and more than that he looks very capable of converting junior talent into senior grade quality (which is no given) so it's important for him and the club long term that we don't just sit back and go "wow, look at this great young player we made" and stop developing the core skills.
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| Quote: El Diablo "I suspect there is a lot of truth in this. A running game is largely, I believe, a gift you are born with, and relies on your physical attributes. You can work on it and refine it, but you can't teach it.
A passing game is something altogether more technical, so it makes sense to make sure the lad is working hard on it in the relatively early days of his senior career. He looks a great talent, and more than that he looks very capable of converting junior talent into senior grade quality (which is no given) so it's important for him and the club long term that we don't just sit back and go "wow, look at this great young player we made" and stop developing the core skills.'"
Spot on.
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| Back in the squad now, "to cover injuries".
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| Quote: G1 "Back in the squad now, "to cover injuries".'"
Well we will surely see him playing somewhere this week either at Leeds / Hunslet, as Mac has already stated how 'vital' it is for him to be playing.
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| Quote: thebloodbath "Well we will surely see him playing somewhere this week either at Leeds / Hunslet, as Mac has already stated how 'vital' it is for him to be playing.'"
Cone carrier/water boy - that'll at least keep him off his backside
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| Quote: LeedsDave "Cone carrier/water boy - that'll at least keep him off his backside'"
So he's been promoted to replace James Lowes as Assistant Coach?
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| Quote: thebloodbath "Well we will surely see him playing somewhere this week either at Leeds / Hunslet, as Mac has already stated how 'vital' it is for him to be playing.'"
He will have some "innovative" tactics in mind for him that may or may not necessarily involve playing him and, even if it does may or may not guarantee no more than 3 mins game time.
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| If McShane is going to play acting half, he needs to actually get to acting half. I noticed there were a lot of cases even when he did get there, he was late, but there were a lot of plays he wasn't there.
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| Quote: Gotcha "Who in there right mind tells the hooker not to look for runs? especially considering some of the tries McShane has scored this season.
This information if correct, backs up the theory on not letting Sutcliffe play his normal game either.
Truely bewildering instructions from the non coaching manual.'"
I wonder if he will be in trouble again then for scoring two tries
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| Quote: unlucky 13 "I wonder if he will be in trouble again then for scoring two tries
I think it's more that he needs to learn when to try it. When he did it against Wakefield, it quite clearly wasn't on. His first try was well executed with a massive dummy, and there was some nice footwork for his second try. His defence looked a lot better as well. He had definitely been told to play for his place!
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| Was the introduction of McShane at that time a tactical move or a forced move because of an injury?
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| Quote: West Leeds Rhino "I think it's more that he needs to learn when to try it. When he did it against Wakefield, it quite clearly wasn't on. His first try was well executed with a massive dummy, and there was some nice footwork for his second try. His defence looked a lot better as well. He had definitely been told to play for his place!'"
Maybe mcd has a secret signal for when to turn it on/off and uses it on Sutcliffe as well
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| I'm not convinced there are any tactics, things happen as an after thought or are forced through injury, I have no idea what any of the pivots were trying to do last night!!
Burrow just can't play with any control, he's headless and a real momentum killer!
PS After played the game for about 20 years how can he not hit a runner, int baffling!!
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| Quote: thebloodbath "Was the introduction of McShane at that time a tactical move or a forced move because of an injury?'"
I thought he came on following Foster's injury?
Few times this season we've kept a couple of subs on the bench for the full first 40, presumably to introduce some fresh legs early in the second half.
Injuries to Delaney, Foster and Kirke will have made it difficult to rotate players in the second half, so having two players with zero minutes in their legs in McShane and Moore worked out quite well.
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| Quote: Andy Gilder "I thought he came on following Foster's injury?
Few times this season we've kept a couple of subs on the bench for the full first 40, presumably to introduce some fresh legs early in the second half.
Injuries to Delaney, Foster and Kirke will have made it difficult to rotate players in the second half, so having two players with zero minutes in their legs in McShane and Moore worked out quite well.'"
He came on for Delaney, though Foster got injured on pretty much the next play. Either way, we can't know whether he'd have got on at all without those knocks.
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