Hahaha - you're joking right? Or are you just a complete d1ck?

You wasn't watching NRL tonight and I think that is what you expect all the time

If Kirke had Moore's playing style, he'd walk off every week as one of the best forwards in the league.

Moore on the other hand is just too small to offer any real impact. He always gives 110% but just lacks the physical presence to do anything with it.

And as for Kirke, he was a passenger tonight. How anyone of his size can get knocked around like he did tonight!

I mean, come on, he even moaned to the papers about how the iPitch hurts last week.


Remember at Widnes last year when we were chatting before the game and I made a tongue in cheek comment that Kirke would be the only player to run out in skins just joking around? What happened 10 mins later! He did and was!

I respect all Pro RL players, but he does steal a living.

I expect professional Rugby League players to be able to do the basics. Tonight, neither team were capable.

People keep saying how the top 6 teams could compete in the NRL. Well, tonight both teams would have had 50 put on them by Parra!!

For me quality wise it was one of the worst games i've seen all season and the handling errors from both teams were appalling, Leeds should have won and had it not been for Zak Hardakers goal-kicking they would have, Warrington were terrible throughout but Leeds did well considering the injuries pre-game and during.

Although I thought for the purists the game was shizen I am very encouraged by the effort of the younger players and think our team has a very good future.If I was sinfield I would be worried suttcliffe is gunna be a right player does not look good for him internationally he's not even the best 6 in our team never mind England . Also kirke tonight really give everything he had but I can't understand how a man that size can be so easy to drive back.

Achurch and Singo out for at least a month

Can we just clarify one thing. There are some people bemoaning the overall quality of the game, and there are people praising the effort and performance (in the circumstances) of the leeds team. These are 2 seperate things.

Oh, and just to show I'm not having a go for the sake of it, Foster's defensive work rate (and size of his balls when Moz ran at him) really impressed me tonight.

Watkins, when he was given the ball, was good also. They just need to pass him the ball more than 5 times a game. If we went right as much as we go left we'd score a heap more points.

I thought it was a poor quality.game overall but not too disappointed. It means little in the grand scheme of things. We will be away to one of the current top 3 in week 1 and are more than capable of winning when it matters.

That's a turnaround H re-Kirke i've wanted rid for ages and you and others have said it's just scapegoating??
I was just saying i think ashamed is harsh given that he tried i agree his quality was lacking but what do you expect?
In all honesty he's had a place in the 17 so often he's seldom deserved imo and i someone i'd release tomorrow to retain Baldwinson and Singleton.

Shame that effort only stick around for 79 mins.

Seriously though, the reason we had to put so much effort in was down to the mistakes and poor kicking game. I appreciate Sinfield and McGuire are out, but Burrow was average beyond believe tonight, both with ball in hand and with his boot. He needs to stop running up blind alleys 20 metres out when he has 3 on 2 outside him.

"Oh, but he's a game winner!!"

Yes, he makes big breaks every now and again. He blows more than he scores though.

Translation: Some celebrate mediocrity. Others are more realistic about the product.

I have never defended Kirke! Bailey and Achurch, yes. But Kirke is below average and I have always said that. I have said he has the attributes to be a top forward in the game, but I haven't wanted him in the tea for years!