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| Eagle-re Kirke are we watching the same player??
He's made plenty of errors and missed tackles so to talk him up like that is way off imo.
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| Quote: rhinoms "Eagle-re Kirke are we watching the same player??
He's made plenty of errors and missed tackles so to talk him up like that is way off imo.'" every player makes errors but my view of what I see off him is that his error rate is pretty low.
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| Quote: G1 "IMO, it's not about when you can or can't "risk" introducing a player it's about our coaches lack of trust in certain players.'"
I don't believe it's a lack of trust in certain players, Singleton, Moore, et al, I think it's having too much faith in the likes of Kylie, JP and Bailey, i.e. while their doing a good job out there - keep then out there.
BMcD's sub rotational policy continues to baffle me but while he's winning games it's hard to question his rationale.
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| Quote: rhinoms "Eagle-re Kirke are we watching the same player??
He's made plenty of errors and missed tackles so to talk him up like that is way off imo.'"
Kirke has certainly averaged a low error count and in the main his missed tackles have been similar in number to fellow bench man Bailey.
But of course it all depends on respective game time and commitment. A player who gives his all with a high work rate, quick line speed and kick chases will quite often have a higher missed tackle rate, something I can forgive.
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| Quote: G1 "Surely the question is why can't the coach trust Singleton (or Moore)? I mean, do we think he can't come on because he's some fekk up waiting to happen? In which case why is he in our Academy let alone near our first team?
IMO, it's not about when you can or can't "risk" introducing a player it's about our coaches lack of trust in certain players. Either those players are simply not good enough to sik in a first team fixture (which I can't believe given the history of and resources devoted to our Academy) or the issue lies with the coach.
I think people are searching for excuses here. "You can't trust player A at that point because we're winning, you can't trust player A at this point because we're not winning". '"
Not sure about the last point, it's mainly those who don't agree with McDermott's use (or non-use) of subs that have introduced the issue of trust into the debate. McDermott doesn't strike me as the type who'd involve any player in any capacity, even as an unused sub, if he had no trust in them.
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "Kirke has certainly averaged a low error count and in the main his missed tackles have been similar in number to fellow bench man Bailey.'"
Is that the same 2013 Bailey who starts at prop / loose?
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| Am I the only one who worries that Singleton lacks the size to be a superleague prop?
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| Quote: Old Feller "Am I the only one who worries that Singleton lacks the size to be a superleague prop?'" anyone who's watched him play won't be worried
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| Quote: Old Feller "Am I the only one who worries that Singleton lacks the size to be a superleague prop?'"
He's well over 6ft tall and about 15 stone, and he's only 20. I'm sure within 2 or 3 years he'll be a beast.
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| Quote: Charlie Sheen "He's well over 6ft tall and about 15 stone, and he's only 20. I'm sure within 2 or 3 years he'll be a beast.'"
......by which time, no doubt, he will have been a Wakefield regular for a similar time (along with Hood) whilst Leeds lament not giving another of their fine young acadamey players reasonable game time; instead preferring to give Lleulai and Peacock further additional contract extensions
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| Ageist?
Leuluai and Peacock are both in great form at present. I for one hope Leuluai can be persuaded to go around again next season if he's still playing this well towards the end of the season and Peacock is still contracted for 2014 so no reason to think he won't still be here.
Still waiting to see this Singleton fella at some point this season to see if he's got more to offer than the likes of Kirke and Moore as an interchange.
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| Quote: tvoc "Ageist?
Leuluai and Peacock are both in great form at present. I for one hope Leuluai can be persuaded to go around again next season if he's still playing this well towards the end of the season and Peacock is still contracted for 2014 so no reason to think he won't still be here.
Still waiting to see this Singleton fella at some point this season to see if he's got more to offer than the likes of Kirke and Moore as an interchange.'"
"Ageist"? Me? I'd love to see the Vulcan back in RAF service.....
I agree our no.8 and 10 are in fine form and could be the new Steve Menzies's.......but would always prefer to keep the club's possible longer term future as a preference.
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| Quote: nantwichexile ""Ageist"? Me? I'd love to see the Vulcan back in RAF service.....
Out of interest, which of those players that have departed during recent seasons would you have kept?
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| Quote: Clearwing "Out of interest, which of those players that have departed during recent seasons would you have kept?'"
Broughton (instead of Donald)
Amor (instead of Griffin)
D.Smith possibly (instead of Moore)
Pitts/Ambler/A.n.other/nearly anybody (instead of Kirke)
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| Quote: nantwichexile "Broughton (instead of Donald)
Amor (instead of Griffin)
D.Smith possibly (instead of Moore)
Pitts/Ambler/A.n.other/nearly anybody (instead of Kirke)'"
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