It's the Leeds team that get him to the big games. He goes missing for England, went missing against Melbourne and was miles off MOM in last years Grand Final when Ablett was the best player on the pitch by far. It's like saying Vickery has more big game experience than Brough cos he's played in a World Club Challenge but come on admit it Vickery isn't a SL player by any stretch of the imagination.

If you seriously believe any of that about Sinfield yer watching a completely different team and player.
Ablett had a fine game in the GF but watch the game closely everything we did right Sinfield had a hand in at some point and set the tone for our win.
He's done it time and time again for us in GF's and other big games.
Your lad was top quality last night and might even do it for another 10/15 games but we all know come the play-offs etc he'll be out-played and once again seen to be skulking off stamping his feet as it ends another year of so near yet so far!
In terms of England i'd say 90% of the team have "gone missing" when we've played the best but this year he's leading the team and getting asked to do exactly what he does for us so we'll see how we go.
Also this "big game" statement how has Brough lead you to wins in when he's been the top man above all others??
In Sinfields case I've lost count even now after all he's achieved many cant accept he's that good imo that just proves they aren't watching properly and cant ditch those anti Blue+Amber specs.
As for Vickery many wrote him off a couple of weeks ago last night imo he wasn't that far worse than many others it will be interesting to see what the Coaches do with him but he's still got a lot to prove if he's gonna be a regular or at least get another chance.

A few random comments from a neutral.
Hudds support was pathetic, 500 at the most, 15 minutes down the road.
Watkins lacks self belief & will not realise his massive potential until he does. To say he is not a FB is stating the obvious.
I've seen Vickery 3 or 4 times, if he was British he would have been dropped by now, he has not a done anything in attack or defence to impress.
THe first 50 or 60 minutes were poor, not an outstanding player on the pitch apart from 3 kicks from Brough. After that it opened up & improved a tad, quite impressed with Kopczak. Not one Leeds player stood out, strange replacement policy by Mac.

We looked like we were protecting Sinfield and Peacock last night so my question is, why play them? Apart from that, even though we conceded 32, I thought we were defensively good (line speed/tackling). Their 1st 4 tries came from kicks and our ability to drop the ball on what seemed like every set gave them good field position. I also thought the Watkins "try" was a try. So did the TJ too and he was about a metre away from it. Not that it mattered though because if you cant hold the ball you dont deserve to win a game.

Brough is good player but sinfield is superior by performing consistently at the highest level for a number of years.
Also he always performs in the big games , grand finals and vital play off games. The giants and brough have yet to succeed at this level. The giants played well and deserved to win but should keep their feet on the ground,it's a long season . Can brough produce that form on a week by week basis,in the past he has not done so. It's a challenge for him and the giants. We shall see at the end of the season,at the moment I have no doubts at all that we are a superior side.
Last night you won a battle, it's highly unlikely you will win a war.

Obsessed about the Leeds fans early because of your numpties slagging off our support. Even you're having a go - there were more than a couple of hundred.

And there was me thinking that you'd made a good post on our forum.

You know, I don't know why I'm even bothering to reply to an in-bred like you.

In my opinion the Leeds and Huddersfield forums are well moderated and have decent contributors, I go on both. I'm open minded about what people have to say about theirs or opposition teams, but can't for life of me understand why fellas like you talk about "hating" opposition fans when their team's just played so well. If someone has had a dig about the small amount of support your team gets, just laugh and tell 'em it's the quality not the quantity. Nobody was talking about "hating" Fartown fans, just a bit of nobble. Enjoy your victory and have a pint for me. I'll save a parking spot for your travelling support next year

You're going to have to remind me where you were at this point last year?

Can you also remind me how confident your lot were at this point last year?

Again, can you let me know what you won last year?

Oh come off it - you have one of the worst supported teams in the league. Huddersfield is literally 20 minutes down the road and you still only managed to scrape a few hundred at Headingley last night.

Huddersfield won because they adapted to the conditions better and used appropriate tactics for those conditions. We contined to do the same things throughout the game and continued to get the same result!

I just have a niggling suspicion that the game would have been different had it been televised, for no other reason than there would have been a video referee who would probably have been invited to judge many of the tries scored/disallowed last night.

The first 4 Huddersfield tries may have been judged to have an offside player heavily involved in the build up or scoring? Did Watkins ground the ball? Was he short?

All these decisions early in a game change the flow of it.

I'm not saying Hudds players were DEFINITELY offside, but the referee would have had the option to check. Also, there would have been more camera angles than Leeds' own feed.