Wigan had 21 academy graduates play in the first team this year.

Nick Fozzard only played in two Grand Finals with St Helens - 2007 and 2008. IIRC, he ended up on the losing side in both.

Where they all Wigan academy graduates though?

Quote: Fat Boy "Where they all Wigan academy graduates though?'" Yes. It would have been 22 if I had included Rhodri Lloyd, but he was signed from South Wales and I presume he played in their academy at some stage. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1666

Quote: Fat Boy "Where they all Wigan academy graduates though?'" Yes. It would have been 22 if I had included Rhodri Lloyd, but he was signed from South Wales and I presume he played in their academy at some stage. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1666

How many only played in the North Wales game?

One.

how many wigan academy graduates were playing when they got beat by widnes?

Quote: MHL "how many wigan academy graduates were playing when they got beat by widnes?'" Only three more than when Wigan inflicted Leeds heaviest ever defeat at Headingley. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1676

Quote: MHL "how many wigan academy graduates were playing when they got beat by widnes?'" Only three more than when Wigan inflicted Leeds heaviest ever defeat at Headingley. wigan.rlfans.com/fusion_pages/in ... ge_id=1676

We had 10 academy graduates in our Grand Final 17. How many did you have?

Also, as in 2004 and 2008, every point Leeds scored in the Grand Final was scored by an academy graduate.

Both halves, the hooker, loose forward and entire 3/4 line in the starting 13 were academy graduates.

Sometimes raw numbers don't allow for the significance of the contribution of the academy.

But d!ck measuring between 2 clubs with good academy track records isn't that helpful anyway. My count, Wigan and Leeds academies have provided about half of the England squad this year. Finger pointing and other aspersions might be better directed elsewhere don't you think?

If its dick measuring, they have a massive one in their second row

He meant it more literally. He measured the barometric pressure at pitch level, calculated the weight of a column of air with base 1 foot square on the centre spot and then compared it with identical readings from other Leeds home defeats.

True story.

tvoc, what were Leeds' heaviest home defeats (by both measures)?

I thought it would be the defeat when we our players weighed the most. No Nandos that week

I did mean the Super League era as that was the discussion re academy players. Just to go back, I did raise concerns about the lack of talent coming through Leeds from around 2009, and it was G1 who brought this back up.

The point I raised all those years ago as a genuine RL fan was as a concern about the lack of development at Leeds. Thankfully this season things appear to have improved but only time will tell.

I'm really peed off with this U20's decision, even though it will probably help Wigan as they were very strong at U18's last year and have signed 11 or 12 of the best U16 team I have ever seen to further bolster that squad.