Are we saying that with Sinny defending out wide the team is making 200+ fewer tackles per season or is it simple that Sinny can only tackle what comes his way and while out wide doesn’t have to tackle forwards?

Now I’m a lazy b’stard but if I wasn’t then you may find that if you totalled all the players tackling stats they would be roughly the same over the past 5 or 6 seasons.

I'm not. I've been back through tvoc's stat threads and totalled the player who started as Loose's tackle counts for all 27 rounds. It's flawed because some were subbed off, on 3 occasions it was Sinnie himself, some didn't play as a Loose despite being named there, and one of the players in question was Weller Hauraki.

690ish. Can't remember the exact figure.

So it's not that the team are making 200+ fewer tackles, (although it is make 50ish fewer tackles!), but it's more that, IMO, it lacks defensive structure with Sinnie "out of position".

It's all opinion.

True, although he's more than adequate in this regard if he's playing behind a dominant pack. I think his game dips when he has to put in too many tackles on bigger players and also when his forwards aren't making the yards they should.

Yes, I agree entirely. On the whole, the Ablett/Clarkson/Hauraki/Kirke/JJB Hybrid Loose Forward has made a similar amount of tackles to what Sinnie would've made. 50 odd less, but still. Similar.

The point I'm making though is people seem very quick to say "Doesn't make a difference whether he plays at 6 or 13, he plays the same role anyway. What's all the fuss about?!" etc etc, but they're basing that purely on Sinfield the attacker. Who does play a very similar role whether he's at 6 or 13.

Sinfield the defender though... does not. He plays an entirely different game when named at 6, to when he's named at 13. All I'm saying, is that this should be taken into account when discussing the pros and cons. If the person takes it in to account, and still prefers him at 6, fine.

My personal opinion is that the LF position is suffering whilst ever Sinfield is playing at SO because we don't have anybody who can do as good (or better) a job but the SO position wouldn't be suffering if Sinfield weren't playing there, because we do have somebody who can do as good (or better) a job.

Give it a scoring system,
Sinfield at Stand Off (9/10), Clarkson/Ablett/Hauraki/Kirke/JJB at Loose (average of 7/10).
Total for the two positions: 16/20.

McGuire at Stand Off (9/10), Sinfield at Loose (10/10).
Total for the two positions: 19/20.

If Chase does sign for us I'm assuming that Mcguire/Chase would be at 6/7 as you say but McShane could be the starting hooker with Burrow the interchange impact hooker where he's been really good lately.However would Rob want that role next season? Any news on Buderus going back to the nights? Sinfield would revert to loose forward which suits his strengths more and the team benefit. The only problem is we've got to sign Chase?

I was told about 6weeks ago that Buderus had been granted his release however the club had still not decided what to do regarding a replacement. You would think that it would be Mcshane, and Burrow as interchange but then Ive heard Mcdermott is not looking at Mcshane and there would be a replacement for Buderus with Burrow off the Bench. Ben fisher was mentioned to me as a possibility on a short deal to give Hood another year to develope. to be Honest i havent got a clue all I know for definate is Buderus is going and Mcshane and Hood have both just been offered improved new 4yr deals

Lets put it this way when Burrow has come off the bench at 9 we all agree his impact has been positive but what about when Buderus returns and Burrow reverts to 7 how has that gone?
Like i posted i know how i would like the 6,7,9 and 13 to line up and what gives us the better balance.
The "Golden Triangle" have shown they can STILL perform in their respective roles and for me that's the better option and no matter how it's dressed up Burrows form this past 2/3 months warrants a return to his starting 7 role.

I think Burrow has been the better out of himself & McGuire. Its just that Burrow is more flexible.

Can't disagree with that LR Mags' injury has taken much longer to get over than many had hoped
I still would'nt drop Mags either though he needs as much gametime as possible.
I just think having all 3 in their respective positions with Buderus at 9 gives us more threat and IF we persist with a 9 off the bench Mcshane is more than capable imo.

If we sign Rangi Chase in the next 12 months then I'll run down Briggate with my 'arris out.

If we sign Rangi Chase in the next 12 months then I'll run down Briggate with my 'arris out.

I've also heard about the possibility of Ben Fisher coming for1/2 years to give more time for McShane and Hood to develop.
Are you still confident from what you've heard from your contact that Chase will be joining us? If not Chase we do need a new half-back if Burrow is moving to 9.

more chance of resigning Senior than Chase. Chase will not be a Rhino...not in 2012 anyway