In these particular incidents they are. For example, in the first case Sam Tomkins collected a Leeds knock-on and Bentham blew for half-time, then Ryan Bailey came in late and dropped on Sam. The only person at fault there was Bailey, yet you said it was "caused by an unnecessary flop onto a Leeds player obviously succumbing to the tackle to end the half". Either you're hugely mistaken and are talking about a different incident or you're the most biased and blinkered person I've ever come across, to the point where you have rewritten the game to maintain your image of saintly Leeds players.


My point was that it isn't justification for a fight. And just because you believe it was childish doesn't mean everyone has to agree with you. There were about 30 seconds left on the clock and he was, imo, trying to waste as many as he could. You might not like that, and the Leeds players certainly didn't, but he hasn't actually done anything wrong. But even if you are right and he was goading them, reacting to it with violence is still wrong. Surely you can agree with that?! And as I already mentioned, McGuire and Bailey to name just 2 did a lot of goading themselves throughout the game.


You said if he'd done that in the amateur game he'd still be collecting his teeth. What have I misinterpreted?


Ah, so if I don't about turn and agree with you it's because I have a cultist approach to Wigan? Come on! You've spent the last few posts trying to deny that Leeds have any culpability for trying to start fights!

I think the term the RFL use is " "

How embarrassing for you.

For one second there I thought you were about to post some irefutable evidence of Delaney deliberatley stamping on Carmonts head.

Ha ha, there's none better than Leeds fans at denying the very reality that's in front of them.

How embarrassing for you.

Just out of curiosity, does Tomkins look offside while chasing down "that kick" that lead to the scrum? (also I know I named it "offisde" stupid typo) i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... ffisde.png

Just out of curiosity, does Tomkins look offside while chasing down "that kick" that lead to the scrum? (also I know I named it "offisde" stupid typo) i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... ffisde.png

Nobody seems to realise this. If they're going to say, "ref did this, ref did that" it really is swings and roundabouts. It lead to try and should have been a Wigan penalty in the final third.
As for the forward pass, yes it was forward and should have been chalked off.
As for the 40/20, did Charnley play for it? Did Burrows play for it? If nobody played for it then it's a 40/20.
The best way fans can go about a loss like that, is to sit back and support the actual game and say well played, unlucky.

Two days latter and you're still belly-aching ...... don't you Yorkshire men go on.

Mind you your Tetley's is okay ... just having another pint as I watch another replay of the final. By the way no one seems to mention the forward pass to Ryan Hall for his second try!

Unless it's Smoothflow it aint from Yorkshire any more.

news travels slow to Hicksville its not brewed in Leeds anymore

The Finch 40/20 attempt was absolutely right IMO. Burrow made a play at the ball in an attempt to stop Charnley kicking through and scoring. Charnley did not attempt to play ther ball after it hit Burrow hence Wigan ball. An excellent decision by the officials at full speed and another example of how people are quick to blame the officials when it suits. The officials do not get the credit they deserve on many occasions.

On the day I thought it was a wrong call but after further analysis in the comfort of my armchair I now realise that the officials got it absolutely right. So given that this was the only incident that was controversial one can only conclude that the officials had a good game overall.

Yes but Tomkins who was offside (see link, he is 2nd in from touch, and at that pointFinch hasnt even kicked the ball so he would have been even more offside) encroached on the 10 in the chase, so the whole who it came off is irrelevant i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... ffisde.png

Yes but Tomkins who was offside (see link, he is 2nd in from touch, and at that pointFinch hasnt even kicked the ball so he would have been even more offside) encroached on the 10 in the chase, so the whole who it came off is irrelevant i1181.photobucket.com/albums/x43 ... ffisde.png

If Charnley wasnt making a play at the ball, he wouldnt have been in position to touch the ball.

The ball went into touch about 3-5 yards before the 20yd line anyway. So if no-one had touched it, it would have been Leeds head and feed.