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Quote: Scott_HKR "The ball dropped forwards but he caught it on the half volley. It should have stood.'"

Two problems with that:

1. The ball clearly hits the ground first.

2. The 'half volley' only works for drop goal attempts.

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Good to hear the comment from sinfield regarding the players being right with McDermott

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Quote: Kosh "Dropping it in front of you is always counted as a knock on. The ball hit the deck before his boot so knock on was the correct call. Millimetres away from being a fantastic play though.'"


See above...from McGuire's Body shape I don't think it was dropped forward...think about Smiths non-offside in the 2009 GF ( icon_biggrin.gif ) - if you're leaning forwards your feet are actually behind you

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Wonder what the post mortem will say? Better performance (which is what the coach wanted), but fell off badly at the start of the second half.

You have to wonder if we will beat a top 4 team (at the time we play them) at all this season. Interesting to hear Sinfield say that everyone is behind McDermott, clearly what has been said on here has got into the changing rooms at HQ.

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If Mcguires no try was a drop goal attempt there is not a person in the world who would argue it should have been ruled out. Sinfield was being kind saying it could have gone either way, it was a try, pure and simple, every day of every week of every year. Mcguire kicked it.

The forward pass was forward, Tomkins should have gone for 10 but these things go against you, We had 80 mins to win the game, we didnt get the rub of the green but it is down to Leeds lack of composure at times that we lost, not Alibert.

Saying that, if any player on that field had had as poor a game as any of the officials in that game, they would be pulling on neither a Leeds nor Wigan shirt next week. Alibert simply wasnt good enough, the touch judge missing that forward pass simply wasnt good enough, Gansons decision on Mcguires try simply wasnt good enough. We desperately need to improve the level of officialdom in SL and have done for a couple of years and that comes down to one man and one man only Cummings.

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Quote: Kosh "Two problems with thatSo if a drop goal attempt misses it ends as a knock on then? The fact Mcguire went on to score is irrelevant to the question of whether the kick was legal or not.

Ganson f@cked up, he should be better than to make such a decision, but he did. These things happen and we move on.

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Quote: Kosh "Two problems with that

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2. Lets not make up our our own new rules icon_lol.gif

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Quote: batleyrhino " Interesting to hear Sinfield say that everyone is behind McDermott, clearly what has been said on here has got into the changing rooms at HQ.'"


Haaaaaaaaaaa i just spat my tea out!!

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Quote: Kosh "Two problems with that2. The 'half volley' only works for drop goal attempts.'"


Since when???

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Hard luck Leeds
Thought Ref & video ref were spot on with every decision and the best team won.
There was never a hint of a forward pass with Wigans opening 2nd half try ~ as you lot always say, it was just the camera angle!!!!
Typical Bailey at the end ~ late in & run away when confronted ~ your team is really beginning to look old, could be 5/6 years before you re-establish the Loiners as a competitive side!!! Happy Days!!!!!!!!! icon_lol.gif

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Quote: Ripon Bull "Hard luck Leeds
Thought Ref & video ref were spot on with every decision and the best team won.
There was never a hint of a forward pass with Wigans opening 2nd half try ~ as you lot always say, it was just the camera angle!!!!
Typical Bailey at the end ~ late in & run away when confronted ~ your team is really beginning to look old, could be 5/6 years before you re-establish the Loiners as a competitive side!!! Happy Days!!!!!!!!! Its sad that trolling has fallen to this level on these boards.

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Quote: SmokeyTA "So if a drop goal attempt misses it ends as a knock on then? The fact Mcguire went on to score is irrelevant to the question of whether the kick was legal or not.

Ganson f@cked up, he should be better than to make such a decision, but he did. These things happen and we move on.'"


We need to be more consistent between how we ref with and without the Video Ref...in a non-sky game that's a try 100% of the time - it's not like McGuire dropped the ball then reacted by trying to kick it, he went for the kick, Tomkins knocked him slightly and screwed his timing by a tiny tiny margin and now it's a knock on because the cameras were present...hmmm

Interestingly the RFL official glossary defines a knock on as "to knock the ball towards the opponent's dead ball line with hand or arm" (On that basis McGuire didn't knock the ball anywhere)

The definition of a kick is "imparting motion to the ball with any part of the leg (except the heel) from the knee to toe inclusive" (no requirement for it to be volleyed)

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Should be a try for me, if drop kicks are legal (and they are!) then it's play on

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