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Quote: Gotcha "And yet we still have the same points as at the same stage of last season. Surely with 20 points to play for the best coaches (in this case McClennan) would surely have at least a couple more points than someone like McDermott (if he really is that much poorer)?'"


Coach McClennan had the sizeable distraction of preparing for the WCC to work around.

In the remaining 17 rounds of the SL Regular season Leeds won 13 (and reached the Challenge Cup Final - after defeating Hull, Blackpool, Wigan and St Helens) - time will tell how close coach McDermott's Leeds will come to matching that record.

Quote: Gotcha "And all this despite it been widely accepted by all that we are currently missing two of our best three players. Not something we had last season.'"


Fair point but in the opening ten SL Regular Rounds last season, Peacock missed three and Sinfield missed four so not quite the ever-presents some might interpret that comment to convey.

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Quote: tvoc "Coach McClennan had the sizeable distraction of preparing for the WCC to work around.

In the remaining 17 rounds of the SL Regular season Leeds won 13 (and reached the Challenge Cup Final - after defeating Hull, Blackpool, Wigan and St Helens) - time will tell how close coach McDermott's Leeds will come to matching that record.'"


He won't come close, that's the point. But neither would McClennan either IMO had he been here this year.

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Quote: Juan Cornetto "Burp'"

You're either being deliberately stupid or it's coming naturally to you today. Either way, it's not my responsibility to illuminate you and I've done a fair bit for charity this month already so I don't feel guilty leaving you in the dark.

You may be right. Lowes track record at Salford and Warrington might not have been his fault. You may be right. McDermott's record at harlequins may not be his fault. You may be right, the level of performances might be more to do with players than two proven failures at coach.

Then again, you may be wrong.

You have posted little to suggest you're anything but the latter.

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Quote: tvoc "Coach McClennan had the sizeable distraction of preparing for the WCC to work around. '"

But... everyone was busy telling us at the time how we needed to peak for the start of the season for that match. That has not been a priority this year so one could expect it to, in fact, have the inverse effect.

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Buderus in the YEP is at least taking some responsibility, and seemingly focused entirely on improving the defence. I don't think McDermott will work out, but senior players need to stand up and be counted as well.

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Quote: Gotcha "A fair point. But equally important is last seasons record too, where neither coaches worked with the players in question. Why do we ignore that?'"


I think that is pretty obvious - it would be OK if everything remained the static - it doesn't. Other teams change personnel and develop existing players.

Huddersfield are a much better side this year than last, Leeds are possibly a poorer side to compare results from last year doesn't present a true guideline.

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kylie leuluai isn't too old he's still playing great

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Quote: ben1998 "kylie leuluai isn't too old he's still playing great'"


He is 32/33 - hopefully this will be his final season, I doubt it though-sadly

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Quote: Sal Paradise "He is 32/33 - hopefully this will be his final season, I doubt it though-sadly'"

Why? He is playing well. We need a guy like Leuluai in the pack! Who is going to put the big shots in and really get stuck into the opposition in defence? As it currently stands the only big hitter in our team is Kylie...With Burgess up'ing his game this season, Bailey looking a much better player and actually winning collisions and JP near a comeback I think Leeds have one of the best front rows in SL. 2 veterans and 2 players in early/mid 20s, perfect. Its the back row that isn't and won't complement them this season

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Quote: G1 "You're either being deliberately stupid or it's coming naturally to you today. Either way, it's not my responsibility to illuminate you and I've done a fair bit for charity this month already so I don't feel guilty leaving you in the dark.'"


Hardly comments that support your point of view.

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