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I guess you've never seen Wellens beaten for pace on the outside one on one before?'"
Not by Jodie Broughton I haven't, though I have seen broughton rounded by Sinfield.

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Keith is convinced that Tony Soprano is G1's new butt plug.

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Quote: G1 "Not by Jodie Broughton I haven't, though I have seen broughton rounded by Sinfield.'"


You need some new material.

If you've never seen a winger round Paul Wellens one on one before, how about a stand off (who has lost more pace than Wellens ever had) two weeks ago or a lumbering second rower beat him in a foot race over 80 meters?

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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Keith is convinced that Tony Soprano is G1's new butt plug.'"


Keith would be correct and stop making it so bloody obvious who you are.

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Quote: tvoc "You need some new material.

If you've never seen a winger round Paul Wellens one on one before, how about a stand off (who has lost more pace than Wellens ever had) two weeks ago or a lumbering second rower beat him in a foot race over 80 meters?'"



So why question Scott Donald doing it?

Did he have a choice of fullbacks to beat or did he just score a fantastic try in a GF?

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Quote: tvoc "You need some new material.
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As do you. Why focus on Wellens perceived short comings rather than celebrate a joyous try?

The Broughton comment is valid considering how you tied our failure to retain him very much to our decision to retain Donald this year. Broughton might've run some great tries in against the Bulls this year (but I suspect Wellens looked like Lockyer against this version of the Bulls) but I've yet to see Broughton score a try like that, against opposition like that, in a game as meaningful as that and i suspect that I never will.

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Quote: Keith Swiftcorn "Scott Donald is your modern day Dave Smith - equipped with plenty of pace but little else, and only really effective in wide open spaces. '"


I'm always slightly puzzled by folk who don't value pace in a winger. Your notion that pace is only effective in open spaces is a myth - it can be even more crucial when space is at a premium - providing the winger doesn't shirk contact - which Donald rarely does (unlike Dave Smith).

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Quote: Clearwing "I'm always slightly puzzled by folk who don't value pace in a winger. Your notion that pace is only effective in open spaces is a myth - it can be even more crucial when space is at a premium - providing the winger doesn't shirk contact - which Donald rarely does (unlike Dave Smith).'"



I'd also question how much space (or lack of it) Donald has been given in his 5 years in SL when looking at his 80+ trys in 140ish games.

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As stated by the majority here....thanks for the memories Scott.

A great servant to the club and best wishes in your future career.

Would everyone agree he's easily been our best winger in the Super League era? (although i recall several threads questioning his signing during his first year here but assume he silenced/converted all those initial doubters?)

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Quote: Clearwing "I'm always slightly puzzled by folk who don't value pace in a winger. Your notion that pace is only effective in open spaces is a myth - it can be even more crucial when space is at a premium - providing the winger doesn't shirk contact - which Donald rarely does (unlike Dave Smith).'"


Fair point. Comparing Donald with D. Smith was grotesquely inaccurate and unfair as the latter was probably the must gutless winger I've ever seen.

My personal view of Donald is he's overrated by some and underrated by others - the truth lies somewhere in the middle - he was steady.

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Quote: cheekydiddles "As stated by the majority here....thanks for the memories Scott.

A great servant to the club and best wishes in your future career.

Would everyone agree he's easily been our best winger in the Super League era? (although i recall several threads questioning his signing during his first year here but assume he silenced/converted all those initial doubters?)'"



I can think of another winger who is the best cheeky icon_hearteyes.gif icon_hearteyes.gif icon_hearteyes.gif

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Quote: Sallystar "I can think of another winger who is the best cheeky
Have you finished my dictation yet or you still fantasising about Ryan H?

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Re"Not many beat Paul Wellens on the outside but part of that was due to Brent continuing his run. For a second Paul was caught in two minds, and against someone as quick as Scott, that was it, gone"'"

Rob Burrow, Page 167.

For me Donald on the left wing was the best winger in the competition 07 and 08 (put some of that down to a certain Keith Senior) but on the right wing he was not nearly as effective and just turned dependable and solid, rather than spectacular. As good as he's been for the club, with the tight constraints of the salary cap I think it's probably a good thing he's decided to return home. Just my opinion.

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Make that 90 trys in 143 games according to sporting life.

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I'd guess a relatively low proportion came from bombs, given his stature. It's personal preference but I'd rather see tries come from a less predictable route.

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