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Quote: LS24 Rhino "They didn't do anything about those sat in the area where you were at the back of the stand under the scoreboard singing obscenities either did they.'"


and encouraging the opposistion fans to "have a go"

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Quote: LS24 Rhino "Thought i saw you with your Ginger mate.......still doesn't alter the fact that nothing was done about the singing.'"


Again, the stewards didn't do their job then. I'm spotting a growing trend!

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Quote: andyR26 "The Hull club will not doing anything about it, I know!!

When we played Hull at headingley at the end of the 2007 season I was attacked coming out of the ground and received a broken jaw in 2 places, I've now 2 metal plates in my mouth holding it all together!!

We wrote to both clubs and the rfl, heard nothing back from Hull or the rfl. Leeds on the other hand were great with GH ringing my dad everyweek over a month to see how I was getting on and if there was anything as a club they could do!!

The Hull club is a disgrace, they have problem with their fans at the KC and at away games! Every club as their problem fans, but most clubs try to do something to stop things happening! Hull just dont seem to care!

Rant over!!

Andy'"


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I sympathise with your experience and do not condone it in any form whatsoever. However, the incident occurred at Headingley and is therefore Leeds RLFC concern. It is not up to Hull, or any other club to steward/police their fans at another clubs ground.

We all know Hull have a problem with sporadic occurances and largely INDIVIDUAL fans who cause trouble. The days of the Boulevard are long behind us and behaviour at the KC has in general been far, far better, and indeed plenty of away fans have commented on these boards of their positive experiences when visiting the KC. If any fan last week did anything that warrants further action then I am sure the club will act. The CCTV coverage at the KC is excellent and gives them no reason not to be able to identify the culprits.

Football has tried hard for 20 years to eradicate this problem from the sport and have succeeded to a certain extent. Hull, like football, like society in general will never totally get rid of the odd idiot/idiots that continue to poison our sport.

We can only hope we continue to weed them out until the next batch come along..........

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Quote: airliebird9 "My rant begins

Sorry but what bull


The club have every responsibility, its THEIR fan who did it, their fan who brought shame to THEIR club

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Quote: Lawrie L "Sorry but what bull


The club have every responsibility, its THEIR fan who did it, their fan who brought shame to THEIR club'"



Then please explain to me how Hull as a club have any control over any person who attends, what (drunken) state those people are in. Where those people stand, how they act, the match stewarding or the match policing.

What's more how do you expect Hull to take action over the said event??? Did a Leeds steward or police officer apprehend or take the 's name???

How exactly are Hull RLFC responsible???

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Quote: airliebird9 "Then please explain to me how Hull as a club have any control over any person who attends, what (drunken) state those people are in. Where those people stand, how they act, the match stewarding or the match policing.

What's more how do you expect Hull to take action over the said event??? Did a Leeds steward or police officer apprehend or take the nice person's name???

How exactly are Hull RLFC responsible???'"



This is a fan of Hull FC, This person has attacked an opposition fan, yet according to you this is Leeds fault d040.gif


Your club should be banning these individuals, if Salford can do it to their fans why cant Hull FC?

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Quote: Lawrie L "Sorry but what bull


The club have every responsibility, its THEIR fan who did it, their fan who brought shame to THEIR club'"


I think you'll find thats exactly what he said icon_biggrin.gifOH:

And if you're suggesting that Hull are responsible for the behaviour of their own fans when they play an away game then you're wrong, the behaviour of supporters within a ground is the responsibility of the home club and in that respect the RFL let themselves off rather lightly after the McAlpine semi final incident, after all, its was the RFL that was responsible for picking the venue and organising the game and the security (what security ???), luckily Hull accepted their scapegoat status probably after acknowledging that they hadn't done too much in the past to prevent the ethos of abusing opposition supporters at The Boulevard.

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Quote: Lawrie L "This is a fan of Hull FC, This person has attacked an opposition fan, yet according to you this is Leeds fault
Strictly speaking it is Leeds' fault.

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Quote: McLaren_Field "I think you'll find thats exactly what he said icon_rolleyes.gif

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Quote: Lawrie L "Quick point, as I mentioned before Salford banning two fans after incidents after an away game, why can't Hull do that?'"



If they were identified then Hull would act I'm sure icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif

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I sat near the 'fans' that was giving it loads to all your supporters, to be honest they was as bad as each other...To all them moaning about the constant abuse from the FC end and saying it's always been like that, simple question, why sit so close to them then? Its not as if you fill the allocation any how, simply move more central or sit at the other end. Theres been no trouble reported outside the ground it all stems from inside... Im sure when we or any other team comes to your ground I know full well we don't get waves or thumbs up all game. So to them moaners, move seats, and to those blinkered fans who see no wrong from your supporters, my friend works at the K.C stadium and he and a fellow worker had to fix 9 seats at the top of the north stand in time for the City Villa game and had to do minor repair to the aluminium sign that alot of away supporters bang on but like we all say, we all get them kind of 'fans'. Get over it!

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Quote: garroway "To all them moaning about the constant abuse from the FC end and saying it's always been like that, simple question, why sit so close to them then? Its not as if you fill the allocation any how, simply move more central or sit at the other end. '"

It basically comes down to the turnstiles that the Hull club usher the away fans in through. When you walk into the ground, they're the first seats you come to, and naturally most people will settle on the first place they see rather than walk down the other end of the stand. You could call that laziness but to be honest it's human nature, especially for latecomers. Simple as it sounds, part of the problem would be eased if you changed the turnstile entry to the other end of the stand. (The other turnstiles were actually open on Saturday but the turnstiles on the tickets were at the East End of the stand.)

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Quote: GCM1980 "
If there were Leeds fans who responded I can understand why but don't necessarily condone it. On a side note, I hope whoever threw his beer at Lauaki does get banned. We don't need that kind of behaviour in our game.'"


Whilst I agree with every bit of what you say regarding the mindless idiots being banned, and that any reaction is not condonable, I have to disagree with what you say above. Don't even try to take the moral high ground when the fact is the first two missiles were thrown by your fans, the first towards The Hull Players and the second from The North Stand into Chav corner.

As for some of the other posters on here, wind your necks in, the majority of ALL RL clubs are decent people, yet you like to tar us Hull fans with the same brush as the minority.

If you don't like coming to Hull, then don't bother, however sort out your own trouble causers. There were no real incidents until the bottle was thrown into The East Stand by them.

Rant over - good luck for the rest of the season and in the cup!

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Quote: garroway "I sat near the 'fans' that was giving it loads to all your supporters, to be honest they was as bad as each other...To all them moaning about the constant abuse from the FC end and saying it's always been like that, simple question, why sit so close to them then? Its not as if you fill the allocation any how, simply move more central or sit at the other end.'"


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