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| Quote Tony Soprano="Tony Soprano"But he was in the shot with the prediction balls throughout the draw so it would have to be delayed a long time if it didn't included any camera tricks while the numbers were put on the prediction balls.'"
Yes, sorry again, they are saying that the draw was filmed live in a studio at the BBC just before Derren Brown went on air on C4 and that is how he knew the numbers. There were even saying the the first C4 bit, was pre-recorded and when they switched back from the camera at the back of the studio to the final camera shot that then stayed on Derren and the numbers that is the first time when Derren actually went live on C4 meaning that the delay was possibly less than a minute.
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| [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jae7M6htaiM&feature=relatedAll becomes clear[/url
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| Hmmm, I don't buy this whole... it was a camera trick solution! It is of course some sort of deception or trick but I really don't think it would be 'technical' trick which after all just involves very clever camera type people! Don't but it, solution 3 is still the best explanation for me!
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| Quote Inflatable_Armadillo="Inflatable_Armadillo"Hmmm, I don't buy this whole... it was a camera trick solution! It is of course some sort of deception or trick but I really don't think it would be 'technical' trick which after all just involves very clever camera type people! Don't but it, solution 3 is still the best explanation for me!'"
Camelot make hundreds of millions from running the lottery. Anybody caught fiddling a lottery machine is going to prison for a few years.
Derren Brown's a brilliant guy and has fantastic mind and persuasion tricks, but he ain't gonna persuade anyone to risk jail for him to do a trick.
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| Quote Inflatable_Armadillo="Inflatable_Armadillo"Hmmm, I don't buy this whole... it was a camera trick solution! It is of course some sort of deception or trick but I really don't think it would be 'technical' trick which after all just involves very clever camera type people! Don't but it, solution 3 is still the best explanation for me!'"
How was it anything but a camera trick?
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| Quote #1leedsfan="#1leedsfan"How was it anything but a camera trick?'"
[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bCyYuSOufETry this one[/url
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| Quote LS16_Rhino="LS16_Rhino"[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_bCyYuSOufETry this one[/url'"
Already said myself the Friday before the show it was camera trick, which strangely enough was dismissed 
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| [url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHb_WqX_plg&NR=1...or this[/url
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| Thing is, it got ppl talking, ppl watched his show and will no doubt sky+ his show on friday (cos we'll all be at headingly  ) to see what else he has to offer. He is a great entertainer, but a trickster all the same.
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| Quote Lord God Jose Mourinho="Lord God Jose Mourinho"Camelot make hundreds of millions from running the lottery. Anybody caught fiddling a lottery machine is going to prison for a few years.
Derren Brown's a brilliant guy and has fantastic mind and persuasion tricks, but he ain't gonna persuade anyone to risk jail for him to do a trick.'"
But who got caught and if you did/do get caught who gained from the trick? Derren makes enough money and he did not buy a ticket (didn't it end up being a roll-over as know one won the jackpot?), so he did not directly gain financially!
You say they could go to prison but it would be very difficult to prosecute anyone for fraud because one did not take place did it? So what could they prosecute him/his accomplice for exactly? Possibly trespass, maybe sack the accomplice (if they did work for the BBC) for gross misconduct but after that I am struggling to find a criminal offence he may of may not be guilty of? It could be that the law talks about fixing games of chance but I bet it says something like, for personal finance gain in the law... if you didn't are you just guilty of a misdemeanour if any offence at all?
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| Quote LS16_Rhino="LS16_Rhino"[url=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XHb_WqX_plg&NR=1...or this[/url'"
I don't think this is not a viable solution (it very clearly is), I am not sure it is the actual solution. If it is I would expect him to maybe come out and say that is how he did it at the end of this current run of shows and it was all about the publicity. He continually states he does not use camera tricks, everything else you can think of yes, but not camera tricks so that is my main objection to it being the likely solution.
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| Quote Inflatable_Armadillo="Inflatable_Armadillo"But who got caught and if you did/do get caught who gained from the trick? Derren makes enough money and he did not buy a ticket (didn't it end up being a roll-over as know one won the jackpot?), so he did not directly gain financially!
You say they could go to prison but it would be very difficult to prosecute anyone for fraud because one did not take place did it? So what could they prosecute him/his accomplice for exactly? Possibly trespass, maybe sack the accomplice (if they did work for the BBC) for gross misconduct but after that I am struggling to find a criminal offence he may of may not be guilty of? It could be that the law talks about fixing games of chance but I bet it says something like, for personal finance gain in the law... if you didn't are you just guilty of a misdemeanour if any offence at all?'"
I dunno. Interfering in events where people gamble on the outcome is illegal is it not? People enter the lottery on the premise that the outcome is a randomly generated event. If that is tampered with then the outcome is no longer randomly generated, hence all the people who bought a ticket no longer got the event on which they gambled. I would be surprised if there is no law covering that. It's not an aspect of the law I know anything about mind you, but I reckon that would be illegal.
I also reckon camera trickery is the likely answer.
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