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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: G1 "G;ad we didn't bother signing him then ![]()
Wheeler will be twenty for the majority of next season, so far from a write off age just yet. The Soliola signing is for 2010 so we will have to wait to see where they see him in their side and where Wheeler fits in the remainder of this season first. I'd expect Soliola to play left side but that could be centre or second row. I expect he'll be devastating in either, as I said yesterday he would have made a blinding signing and I expect he still will only not for Leeds now.
Quote: G1 "Sometimes, I'll argue the contrary even if I agree with him, just for the sake of a quality debate, but don't let him know that ![]()
I think he figured that out for himself but happy to play along for giggles.
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| Quote: G1 "Clearly Saints didn't have the faith in their untested, young 21 year old stand off that you did.'"
They had enough faith to continue with him at left centre V Les Catalans yesterday where he repaid that faith by scoring the winner.
Let's wait and see the extent of the latest Soliola injury. |
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| Quote: tvoc "Let's wait and see the extent of the latest Soliola injury.'"
Quote: tvoc "rlRoostersrl forwards Sia Soliola and Craig Fitzgibbon will both miss next weekend's game against the Penrith Panthers after suffering injuries in their Round 10 game.
Soliola suffered a medial ligament injury within the first minute of the game that will see him miss 4-6 weeks. He will have scans on Monday.'"
Soliola & Fitzgibbon it must be the curse of Super League!...
Interesting that the Roosters website is referring to him as a Forward now aswell... |
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| Quote: The Joker® "Soliola & Fitzgibbon it must be the curse of Super League!...
Interesting that the Roosters website is referring to him as a Forward now aswell...'"
In their defence mate he has been lining up in the second row a bit lately with saitamata(sp) sa playing centre! |
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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: tvoc "They had enough faith to continue with him at left centre V Les Catalans yesterday where he repaid that faith by scoring the winner.
Let's wait and see the extent of the latest Soliola injury.'" yes, maybe Saints will find that the solution to their needs from centres isn't so easily filled by an external signing and maybe lies with promoting a youngster.
Imagine a club that would do that eh? |
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| Quote: G1 "yes, maybe Saints will find that the solution to their needs from centres isn't so easily filled by an external signing and maybe lies with promoting a youngster.
Imagine a club that would do that eh?'"
You can only do that if you have a quality youngster coming through who is ready when asked to make the step up. From what I've seen so far Gary Wheeler is one such youngster.
If a club doesn't have such a player ready then what should they do? |
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| Quote: G1 "I like having a good discussion with TVOC. I like to think I am helping him see more than just the stats when it comes to rugby ![]()
Just to return to the Hall & stats thread. Whist I agree he has improved a lot this season we should not get carried overboard particularly with regard to stats. Stats do not take into account that fact that Hall has the great benefit of playing outside Senior this season. Also we make most of our effective attacks down the left as Web links as a left side SO. So of course he has much more chance to make the extra metres and scores. One stat is missing. How many points per game does Hall give away with bad handling?
Stats show Peacock making the most metres but don't show that many times his 'extra metre gained' results in slow PLB's and so wasted attacking opportunities- one of our big problems this year. Quick PLB's are more important than individual's extra metres gained. Saints are masters at the timing of going to ground early and getting up quickly so their attack is moving forward before the defence is ready. Fielden in his prime at Bradford was a master of this tactic but it doesn't show in the stats.
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[quote:1pqtnbtj]Every player in our squad could probably earn more money with another club. But they prefer to sacrifice a few extra quid in their back pocket to share special memories. And playing at a place like Old Trafford on a night like this makes it all worthwhile.[/quote:1pqtnbtj]
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| Quote: Juan Cornetto "Just to return to the Hall & stats thread. Whist I agree he has improved a lot this season we should not get carried overboard particularly with regard to stats. Stats do not take into account that fact that Hall has the great benefit of playing outside Senior this season. Also we make most of our effective attacks down the left as Web links as a left side SO. So of course he has much more chance to make the extra metres and scores. One stat is missing. How many points per game does Hall give away with bad handling?
Stats show Peacock making the most metres but don't show that many times his 'extra metre gained' results in slow PLB's and so wasted attacking opportunities- one of our big problems this year. Quick PLB's are more important than individual's extra metres gained. Saints are masters at the timing of going to ground early and getting up quickly so their attack is moving forward before the defence is ready. Fielden in his prime at Bradford was a master of this tactic but it doesn't show in the stats.'" I've said before and possibly earlier in this thread that statistics aren't the be all and end in in adjudging a players' performances.
I've not based my praise for Hall on his statistics alone but my general view of his play. What the statistics doe help though (especially with a winger) is with an indicator of work rate. Halls statistics in this regard are phenomenal. I think overall, in terms of consistency in what has been a pretty sub par season so far Hall has been our best player.
Of course, playing outside a quality centre will help but TVOC demonstrated on a thread a few weeks back that Hall was actually performing very well on the right wing last year.
How many points per game does Hall give away? I think his handling is fine. You're not blaming Cas' try on Friday on him are you? If so I'd take another look at the pass given to him by the dummy half which would've been hard to take in dry weather. |
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| Quote: G1 "Of course, playing outside a quality centre will help but TVOC demonstrated on a thread a few weeks back that Hall was actually performing very well on the right wing last year.'"
To supplement that comment I also posted this on the rlSt Helens forumrl after the Murrayfield Magic weekendRyan Hall's 2009 triesKeith Senior, Grubber Kick by Danny McGuire
V Salford (H) - Pass received from Keith Senior
V Huddersfield (A) - Pass received from Keith Senior
V Les Catalans (N) - High Kick by Rob Burrow, Pass received from Ali Lauitiiti
Senior has been directly involved in three of the twelve (25%), the same as Lauitiiti. The point here is that wingers are not solely reliant on their centre's supply of ball and as good as Senior has been (and continues to be) Hall deserves some credit as a try scorer. He also scored tries on the right last season without a settled centre to feed off and Leeds' right wing (Hall/Smith) outscored Donald on the left two to one over the final twelve matches of last season. [/i
Out of date now with Senior supplying the pass for Hall's try on Friday night at Castleford but you get the drift. |
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