From 4 weeks back I always was of a mind that you would finish bottom 4, but of course have no concerns whatsoever of comfortably negotiating that hurdle and resuming your place in Super League for 2017. So part one of your transition period sorted.

However, having seen the levels of performance since then I'm having a shift of thinking.

It appears the issues are not only on the playing field, they are also running through the very fabric of the organisation.

I'm sure its not terminal, but it does appear that the battles ahead to retain your Super League status against Championship clubs will see them looking at the fixture against Leeds as one that is perfectly winnable. Something no one ever dreamt would be possible to say. How the mighty have fallen.

The Grand Finale to your season may yet be a far bigger hurdle than last years Grand Final.
For sure the Rugby League world will be watching with interest, perhaps amazement ??

We wait and see.

If we start behaving like Wakefield and making decisions like Wakefield, pretty soon we will be a club like Wakefield.

I think you need to take a look at performances and the league table, because we are doing a pretty good impression of Wakefield so far this year.

Yes, that's exactly what'll happen. Because the two clubs are exactly the same - financially, facilities, supporter base, every facet of their operations is entirely comparable.

Mind you, going from 12th to 6th in the space of half a season is probably something Leeds could do with aspiring to.

Yeah, 15 games doesnt discount 15 years.

NO, leeds should aspire to do more than that.

Why has this level incompetence you speak of won so many trophies including the historic treble only last season? Or are you suggesting that the culture and structures have done an about turn since Christmas and if so why?

You cannot guarantee that if Murray (or anyone else) were coach we would not have conceded nearly 92 points given the same circumstances this is pure speculation.

It could well be that it is time for a change and had our fall from grace happened with a full squad and full preseason training in place then you would have a stronger argument as you would have if he were solely responsible for the lack of quality recruitment. I believe that GH is responsible for recruitment.

But where you have a proven asset as a champion coach who produced his best and historic results for the club only last season, when he was coach of the year, to then to throw this away only on the evidence that we have had a disastrous first half of the season would be a huge and unnecessary risk. Especially if it were just to satisfy a bunch of impatient and unreasonable spectators who dismiss so lightly the obvious extenuating circumstances the coach has found himself from the very start of his preparations and which have continued throughout the season to date so that each week he cannot select a team until almost kick of time.

It was actually 10 players missing on Saturday. So if all were fit I would drop Handley for Hall, Golding for Briscoe, Watkins for Moon, Achurch for Ward, Walters for Ablett, Singleton for Delaney, L Briscoe for Burrow, Mullally for Garbutt, Hallas for Falloon, Hardaker for Sutcliffe.

But you are ignoring that it was HKR that sacked Chester so the tangible example is HKR who may now be regretting sacking Chester.

We agree that it was the club that made the mistake of not adequately replacing the roles of Sinfield and JP. But that is a player issue not a coaching issue unless you can prove the coach was responsible for the recruitment failures.

Quote krisleeds="krisleeds"The thing is that his press conferences instill no confidence and provide no answers. The Wigan game here - www.therhinos.co.uk/tv/brian-mcd ... K6xvkrK70- seems to say that the players are all knackered due to playing and 'tough' calls. Tough tough tough.'" Interestingly, in his press conference, BMcD listed all the injured players but (conveniently) left out Falloon's name. I wonder why?

Quote krisleeds="krisleeds"The thing is that his press conferences instill no confidence and provide no answers. The Wigan game here - www.therhinos.co.uk/tv/brian-mcd ... K6xvkrK70- seems to say that the players are all knackered due to playing and 'tough' calls. Tough tough tough.'" Interestingly, in his press conference, BMcD listed all the injured players but (conveniently) left out Falloon's name. I wonder why?

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It was arguably Hull KR's excellent Challenge Cup run which kept Chester in that job in 2015. Their top eight target was missed and this time around they acted early and decisively - Chester himself had predicted his own demise when he said he was surprised to be only second favourite for the chop at Hull KR's pre season media event.

Your 1 from 5 includes the two games Willie Poching was in charge of before Webster's appointment - Webster's Hull KR won 2 from his first 5 including their biggest win V Leeds at Headingley both in terms of points scored and margin of victory not only in my lifetime but also in your lifetime, indeed it was Hull KR's highest score and biggest margin at Headingley ....... EVER.

Including today's defeat Webster is now 4 wins from 10 Regular Rounds as Hull KR coach while Leeds are 2 wins from the same. If you think Hull KR's record since changing coaches is not that great (and compared to Wakefield's I agree it's not) it's still 100% better than that achieved by Leeds who are sticking with theirs. If you class 4 from 10 as poor what does that make 2 from 10?



SL Regular Rounds in 2016

Chester at Hull KR = 1 point from 6 = 17%

Poching at Hull KR = 0 point from 4 = 0%

Webster at Hull KR = 8 points from 20 = 40%

McDermott at Leeds = 6 points from 30 = 20%

So with a bit of positional tinkering we would get something like:

Sutcliffe
Briscoe, Keinhorst, Moon, Hall
McGuire, Lilley
Galloway, Falloon, Cuthbertson
Ward, Ferres, Jones-Buchanan
Subs:
Burrow, Ablett, Delaney, Garbutt

Result with McDermott as coach 11th rather than 12th?