Our attack has been poor for months now, even with Burrow & Maguire. Just so pleased they have now got challenge cup medals as I would not be too bothered if some of the old guard were moved on next year.

Wigan really wanted that tonight, Wane always has them fired up 100% for us (Magic weekend) no matter what.

As you say, key players to return and we all know we have much more to give than that.No panic.

It's the same thing that was levelled at McGuire in the games against Wakey and Catalans when Sinfield and Burrow were missing.

They need each other to be at their best, you take one out it effects it, two missing then definitely.

Crap player we have 15-16 best players and that is it need to add genuine strength in depth next season.
We can still win GF with our best side out though.

pretty much this.

confidence is shot - that's what happens to young players that McDermott doesn't like/rate

That's incredibly harsh given how much Thaler kept us on the back foot all night - even the Sky team acknowledged on numerous occasions (even Clarke - that's how bad Thaler was FFS!). In the circumstances, whilst Leeds weren't at their best, they stood their ground throughout and never gave in.

Not surprising as the huge problem was because we were without our key attackers Burrow and McGuire in both games and one man down for 60 of those minutes.

sounded like a great atmosphere at the game tonight and thought the Leeds fans were superb, still singing and getting behind the lads to the end despite the result.

so if you believe that why did you not want to play McGuire in the semi?

Perhaps this is just your way of covering for a player who is in serious decline!!

Should be a massive crowd for the first week of the playoffs at home against Catalan

We have been terrible with the ball for the whole second half of the season, but unlike the first half of the season our defence has lost its bite. This is what happens when you rely on magic from players who are either not ready or getting slower as they age. I know I'll get slated from the usual suspects but that was a typical McDermott performance, hard working but ultimately dumb with the ball meaning you burn all your juice in defence.