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For the Bradford game it was poor selection in the centre for me two back rowers playing there.

The London game for me was down to the team, we were up and in control, not the managers fault in my opinion that's on the team.

Ultimately the tactic from both these games was successful as we won the challenge cup, which is what it was all about. The squad we have should have been easily be able to deal with both relegation teams.

Will be interesting to see how those who were left out respond, as I assume a large portion of them will be around the squad this coming week, particulary Ward, who has slipped well down the pecking order, I imagine Kev who has experienced something similar in his early career will be putting an arm around him and having a word

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实事求是!:



Quote: DHM "London was an awful result, add that to dropped points against Bradford and Wakefield and you have a problem. The pressure it puts us under now gives the team no breathing space to recover from the Wembley experience. We now have no buffer and a top 4 position looks very doubtful. I can't see logically that you go and work so hard early season to then blow it all with a set of shocking results and performances. I do beleive that McD would have wanted to be able to concetrate on using the Saints and Wigan games as warm ups - with little win/lose pressure to shake off the Wembley hangover and focus on performance and build towards the playoffs. Now that's changed.

Saturday was something very special, but I suspect the coaching team now has a real mission now and once the Wembley euphoria has died down the reality of those dropped points, precarious top 4 position, and poor performances will be back in the minds of the players. I don't doubt the guys can do it, but I would bet serious money they didn't plan to have to do it this way.'"


This is why people were critical of the results against london and bradford. Had they just been competent, and closed out winning positions, they would be in a great position to do the treble or finish in the top 2. Now, only points difference seperates us from 6th place.

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You have to credit McDermott for the plan but you have to credit the players for having the ability to carry it out. McDermott is a good coach, of that there is little doubt, however he is coaching a team of truly exceptional players. You can't blame the players when things go wrong and then praise the coach when they go well.

Seeing the players on Saturday you have to give McDermott some credit for putting the whole season on the line to enable the players to achieve the one thing that has eluded them for so long. I for one will not be so disappointed if Saturday is the high point of the season. McDermott's grasping of the importance to the players should be applauded.

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Quote: Sal Paradise "You have to credit McDermott for the plan but you have to credit the players for having the ability to carry it out. McDermott is a good coach, of that there is little doubt, however he is coaching a team of truly exceptional players. You can't blame the players when things go wrong and then praise the coach when they go well.

Seeing the players on Saturday you have to give McDermott some credit for putting the whole season on the line to enable the players to achieve the one thing that has eluded them for so long. I for one will not be so disappointed if Saturday is the high point of the season. McDermott's grasping of the importance to the players should be applauded.'"

Works both ways on both fronts. For Good results and bad both the players and the fishes have part of the responsiility, however, once the team is out on the pitch the influence on what happens is limited, to use of subs, observations, and reverting to a plan b.
At London it looks like we had got into a position to win, and then through it away

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Quote: The Eagle "Works both ways on both fronts. For Good results and bad both the players and the fishes have part of the responsiility, however, once the team is out on the pitch the influence on what happens is limited, to use of subs, observations, and reverting to a plan b.
At London it looks like we had got into a position to win, and then through it away'"


[ithrew[/i who's fault icon_wink.gif

Interesting you heap equal praise and blame on the fishes......i for one never thought of that. icon_biggrin.gif

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Quote: tvoc "Most successful by which measure/s ?'"


Most major trophies of any Leeds Coach. What other stat matters?

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Quote: nantwichexile "[ithrew[/i who's fault I blame predictive text on my tablet for the typo icon_wink.gif

I'm not saying blame or credit is equal, just shared

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[quote="Gotcha in 2016":12w08s93]McDermott is going. I actually think he is more relaxed because of it, and seems to have let the shackles go. He apparently asked to finish the season, and that is what they agreed.[/quote:12w08s93] :lol: :lol: :lol::d7dc4b20b2c2dd7b76ac6eac29d5604e_11388.jpg



Quote: tvoc "On what basis has the coach escaped his share of the criticism for arguably the most embarrassing defeat in the club's entire SL history?

If you think the majority view of posters (if that is what occurred after the London debacle) on an internet message board should hold sway or change personally held opinions why do you still support the selection of Burrow as starting hooker?

Do you give equal weight to every view shared on here - some posters don't even try to discuss rugby matters anymore.

Most successful by which measure/s ?'"




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Glad my topic from 2014 holds up well. To all you moaners, keyboard warriors and armchair coaches...... this one’s for you

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[quote="Odemwingie":34o3cs52] I hope his career is over.(regarding danny mcguires injury 2010 play offs)[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Ewwenorfolk":34o3cs52] I'm glad McGuire got injured, hope he's out for about 10 months[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Bulls4Champs2010":34o3cs52]Price, Civ, Beaver, Moz and Wiki. Peacock is not in the catagory of these special players.[/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="McLaren_Field":34o3cs52] To be fair, their teams are also inconsequential to their own fans judging by the amount of traffic that all the other boards get [/quote:34o3cs52] [quote="Warrington Wolf":34o3cs52]If you win the weekly rounds then without doubt you are the champions.[/quote:34o3cs52]:



Quote: _dyl_ "Glad my topic from 2014 holds up well. To all you moaners, keyboard warriors and armchair coaches...... this one’s for you'"

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So is mcdermott saying goodbye last night. It looked like it to me

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What did he say? I was at the game and have not seen a re run yet but i would really like to see him sign off on that note yesterday, fantastic performance never gave Cas a look in really.

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Quote: Biff Tannen "What did he say? I was at the game and have not seen a re run yet but i would really like to see him sign off on that note yesterday, fantastic performance never gave Cas a look in really.'"


I can't quote him, but during his post match interview, he refered to the win as the final chapter of the book that was this season. I did pick up on it at the time, there has been speculation that the comment may have been Mac signing off. But I'm not sure that he meant anymore than what he said.

BTW Was that the best of our EIGHT WINS? It felt like it to me.

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"That's the final chapter of the book,""For us to make the Grand Final is a great story and we've just capped off the final chapter. "I have been saying to my players all week that you don't get many chances to have moments in life that stand out where every man, jack and his dog up the country will think, 'They can't go and win the Grand Final can they? Not from where they were'. Danny McGuire with the man of the match prize "We've done it. That group of people over there have gone through every emotion going in the last 18 months, the whole club. "This isn't just a coach's win or the players' win. Everybody at Leeds Rhinos, including the fans, who stood with us when the dark times were really, really dark, this is everybody's. The whole club deserves this. "Never did I dream in my wildest dreams that we'd get to Old Trafford never mind win it. Now look at us. "It's the best win ever this one."

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Quote: TOMCAT "I can't quote him, but during his post match interview, he refered to the win as the final chapter of the book that was this season. I did pick up on it at the time, there has been speculation that the comment may have been Mac signing off. But I'm not sure that he meant anymore than what he said.

BTW Was that the best of our EIGHT WINS? It felt like it to me.'"


Thanks, will see what happens.

Yes that was as complete a GF performance i have ever seen from us.

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