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| Broughy only speaks to the Ref when its appropriate
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| Don't see the problem with speakIng to the ref as a captin. The main problem I would have is how rubbish is the ref if he pays any attention at all.
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| Luke O'Donnell not guilty.
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| FROM RFL SITE
"Huddersfield Giants forward Luke O’Donnell is free to play in his side’s tie against Hull at the KC Stadium on Sunday after the match-review panel cleared him of any wrongdoing in the 48-24 win over Leeds Rhinos yesterday.
O’Donnell was sent off by referee Thierry Alibert for alleged deliberate use of the forearm on Leeds prop Ian Kirke, who was knocked out in the collision.
Alibert recalled the Australian forward from the bench after he had been replaced by substitute Larne Patrick to show him a red card.
Huddersfield coach Paul Anderson maintained afterwards that Kirke had been injured by an accidental clash of heads and was proved correct when the panel found O’Donnell not guilty.
so are we going to hear anything about why the farce? why when Alibert waved play on did he then go back to the incident? Why did he initially speak to the wrong Giants player (which suggests he wasnt clear about what he or someone thought they saw)? why did Alibert seemingly change his mind about putting the incident on report? why did the fourth official get involved? What was the involvement of the fourth official?
I suspect that Alibert will be dropped from the playoffs - ironic since he initially made the correct decision about the alleged incident (even though he should have given a knock on against leeds)
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| Quote: jools "FROM RFL SITE
"Huddersfield Giants forward Luke O’Donnell is free to play in his side’s tie against Hull at the KC Stadium on Sunday after the match-review panel cleared him of any wrongdoing in the 48-24 win over Leeds Rhinos yesterday.
O’Donnell was sent off by referee Thierry Alibert for alleged deliberate use of the forearm on Leeds prop Ian Kirke, who was knocked out in the collision.
Alibert recalled the Australian forward from the bench after he had been replaced by substitute Larne Patrick to show him a red card.
Huddersfield coach Paul Anderson maintained afterwards that Kirke had been injured by an accidental clash of heads and was proved correct when the panel found O’Donnell not guilty.
so are we going to hear anything about why the farce? why when Alibert waved play on did he then go back to the incident? Why did he initially speak to the wrong Giants player (which suggests he wasnt clear about what he or someone thought they saw)? why did Alibert seemingly change his mind about putting the incident on report? why did the fourth official get involved? What was the involvement of the fourth official?
I suspect that Alibert will be dropped from the playoffs - ironic since he initially made the correct decision about the alleged incident (even though he should have given a knock on against leeds)'"
I wouldn't ruminate too much about it......it about sums up the general quality of the refs in SL. Even Thaler (about the best of a sad bad bunch) got it horribly wrong in Leeds's CC semi against Wigan by [inot[/i going to the video ref when he had every justification for doing so.
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| Glad Kirke is OK.
Shame on Sinfield for persuading Halibut to send O'Donnell off then applaud when he did. Not only is Kevin Sinfield vastly overrated, he's a cheat too. Should be cited by the RFL.
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| I will see what i can do Mark .
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| Quote: PONNER "Glad Kirke is OK.
Shame on Sinfield for persuading Halibut to send O'Donnell off then applaud when he did. Not only is Kevin Sinfield vastly overrated, he's a cheat too. Should be cited by the RFL.'"
Yes it's obviously all down to sinfield that LOD got sent off. There are a lot of one eyed fans around. Yes he speaks to the ref. as captin he is allowed. But no more than many others. Brough and briers as a example of 2.
As I said above it should be alibert who should be taking the stick.
On Kirke just read on sky sports that Kirke actually stopped breathing in the incident. Glad he is on the mend though.
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| Quote: PONNER "Glad Kirke is OK.
Shame on Sinfield for persuading Halibut to send O'Donnell off then applaud when he did. Not only is Kevin Sinfield vastly overrated, he's a cheat too. Should be cited by the RFL.'"
LOL
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| Oh, I've missed PONNER
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| The thing with Sinfield he didnt just 'talk' to the ref as captain he was constantly in his ear all the time kirke was down, ive no problem with a captain getting clarification on a matter but it ws pretty obvious by his body language and his demeanour what he was upto !!
Alibert had given his original decision as play-on with leeds getting the ball, it should have been given as a knock-on, and play only stopped after the handbags a tackle later when someone pointed out there was a man down....and from the moment play was stopped Sinfield was straight over to the ref offering him his 'advice'.
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| Nothing will happen to any of the idiots who clearly didnt have a clue what they were doing, i wouldnt be surprised if we get the useless alibert again next week.
Its about time these bafoons were brought to book for bringing the game into disrepute but we all know they are immune from criticism from their equally useless leader!
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| Good to hear about kirke and his recovery,poor lad
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| Are people seriously suggesting that sinfield affected the outcome- his conduct was out of order in arguing for a sending off when he either hadn't seen the invident clearly or had and knew there was nothing wrong with it, and also applauding when the card was given-and im sure he was genuinely concerned seeing kirke like that. But he isn't all that that halibut would be swayed by him. The swaying appeared to be a result of a fourth official getting a twitchy bottom when it appeared that a player was seriously injured.
Anyway the main thing now is that Kirke is ok and doing well and possibly able to play next week.
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| Oh the irony of Sinfield being accused of being a crier for talking to the referee by some Hudds fans who have then spent the next 36 hours crying about something he's allowed to do as captain. Deriding him for clearly not seeing the incident yet they being so confident even from various decent distances away in a crowd of over 9,000 people knowing exactly the words he said to Alibert did cause him to change his mind.
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