What is the TV income for a Prem RU team by comparison to the squad spend?

Lang has had the best squad Souths have had in years and he has taken them backwards - we need another Maguire - a quality assistant from the NRL who is able to shows the ageing core players who is the boss.

I didn't make myself very clear did I. What I meant was that Leeds will never spend up to the cap, but they will never spend way way beneath it either. GH is frugal, but not daft enough to think that by spending say 250k below the cap he would have a squad strong enough to be real contenders.

If I were a betting man, I'd say that every year we are between 30 and 70k under the cap limit.

Significantly less about 1m a year - plus they have much bigger squads to support given the specific skills required for certain positions.

So who do you suggest? Incidentally we really missed the boat with Furner IMO.

I think GH will spend as little as he can to ensure the profitability of the club - no bad thing in principle. Unfortunately, like in any business, when you stop investing only one thing will happen? and it isn't positive.

Caddick subsidises them personally and it's widely known they don't spend up to the RU salary cap. Only a conspiracy-theorizing loon would think their playing budget is topped up directly from the Rhinos' playing budget. Leeds RL certainly subsidise them in other ways, but as the biggest club in RL Leeds could and would spend plenty more on the squad if they were allowed to (being allowed to would mean they were in fact obliged to spend more). They'll be a little under the cap in normal circumstances I imagine; and this year I can't recall the exact sequence of Diskin/Donald/Cross/Hauraki movements so he could be keeping some more up that sleeve. But these would be in the tens not hundreds of thousands.

Hetherington though likes the salary cap as it is because it keeps costs down. But don't be fooled that pretty much top of his priority list is ensuring a successful Leeds Rhinos team. Since you're obsessed with his obsession with money, it's worth remembering that more than anything else at Headingley it's that which makes the real profits.

Possibly, although the Raiders are going well. Furner is lucky his dad runs the club so I think his position is pretty secure. He would make a great coach IMO - I still think there is some legs in Steven Kearney, who only just missed out to McClennan last time around.

The obvious place to look is Melbourne, Bellamy is the best coach in the world and his protege's seem to learn a lot from working with - not least who is the boss, something sadly lacking at Headingley

The RU Salary Cap is £4M per year, whilst the TV income from the last deal was £54M over 3 years, equating to £18M per year. I don't know the details of the split between the Prem clubs and a parachute payment, but it's conservatively 1.5M per year between 12 clubs.

That leaves quite a gap that has previously been filled by Paul Caddick personally as documented many times. I don't expect that with the playing squad that Carnegie have they are spending anything like 4M, even given the larger squad to cover more specialist skills as you point out.

The point is Leeds is a very small enterprise in the real world 11m is tiny in comparison to normal commercial enterprise - it would interesting to compare the revenue streams of the two main sporting clubs in Leeds - that might actually put things into perspective for you.

The club doesn't have a finite cashflow, Caddick will guarantee the O/D, loans etc but if he were putting money into the Tykes you would expect to see the director's loans on the increase that is not visible on the balance sheet - so I would suggest quite the contrary.

If they have a to support a RU squad with limited funds - Leeds profits are not in the millions - something has to give. What else would you suggest is their next biggest expenditure? You are nieve if you think the success of the two sides are not financially linked. The sacking of the director of rugby suggests the club isn't quite as flush as some on here would suggest.

Kearney is at Parramatta. No chance of him quitting to come here.

David Kidwell and Kevin Walters are Bellamys assistants. Kidwell is nowhere near ready. Walters took Les Catalans backwards at a rate of knots.

I predict MjM is going to have a field day picking holes in all that.

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