your funny mate. Even with your cheapshot merchants we still beat you and we wernt even close to our best. We showed alot more than Leeds did, and absolutely nothing worries Wigan or Wire or Saints about Leeds. No we wernt near a championship team, but we were closer than your guys.

I think a team we've beaten twice this year whilst not near our best and our GF bitches will know otherwise.

True, my point is though that you guys are showing nothing that any of us should be worried about, so the opening post of this topic is pretty ridiculous. Not saying you should worry about us, but I dont know where this over confidence that you will win convincingly at our place has come from, because you havent shown anything that would give you that.

5 drives and kick? Are you on the same planet?

You're John Kear (of "paint drying" fame) and I claim my £5



Wigan have scored 834 points, the majority from the back three players. How you can say we don't play pretty I've no idea. In fact I'd say we're playing just as pretty as Leeds were playing the season before this one. Had Amos Roberts not got injured in round 10 we'd be even prettier.

I know it's nice to invent facts that agree with your ingrained point of view, but you'll find that most Wigan fans don't think we'll win the Grand Final. Try this thread for some factual evidence of this (you may not like it - it'll refute your opinion) [urlhttp://viewtopic.php?f=28&t=464669[/url

It can make you look a bit silly throwing allegations around that anyone can find are incorrect with just a few minutes searching & reading.

By you maybe, but I reckon three consecutive league wins is pretty impressive, and I believe that will be remembered for quite some time.

I thought Leeds were poor last night. And if hall scores the try(he should have taken it before tomkins got near him) with 6 mins to go we could have still had a sniff at it. I respect and appreciate what Wigan do. but all the top four have the beating of each other. Yesterday made me think we can win it again.

This tread reminds me of those threads where saints fans and other clubs trolls would write us off and poke fun.

Leeds have conceded 20 points or over on their last 9 or 10 games.
In their last seven games their points difference is a minus.
That is not the form that's going to win the GF or C Cup.

Next week will be crucial for Leeds, Saints have beaten Warrington tonight and with Hull's win at Quins Leeds are no longer fourth.
Saints will have a massive psychological advantage going into the semi.
Saints are in form, Leeds are out of form!

well we are lucky pre match stats don't decide ties then! And for the record saints defense is hardley water tight of late.

Oh well, if you lose to Wigan in the playoffs you can at least brick their supporters coaches again.

Been a strange old season with the injuries (what other team hasnt had them tho?)

But a few points from Last night:

*Centres, Senior's passed his sell by date surely? he chase back for the goulding kick was comical. And his turnstyle tackling was reminiscent of Richie Mathers. Delaney is consistanly avarage, is that whats expected for a Champion winning team?

*6/7, for me one of Maguire/Burrows should be sold and replaces with a quality aussie (if there is one available). IMO it would be Maguire, as good as his is for that match winning try from an individual piece of brilliance. HE counter-acts that with consistantly poor tackling (minus the hit on glass jaw), and ill decision making.

*Set Moves, from the games i've seen this year leeds attack hasnt looked this same, possibly with the large player rotation but it seems as if some arent quite so sure what calls being made. Handling skills were put to a test last night but its usually something we excel in.

*Ganson, as mentioned in another thread about his defensive line set up.. its a possiblity. As for some of the other calls it does seem he likes to be contraversial. From the southstand the ablett tackle looked nothing more than a shoulder in the chest rising up. made dramaticlaly worse by J.Tompkins running in for handbags after.

*Wigan tackling, as frustrating as it is to watch, it has potential to win them the Gf at OT. 3/4 man tackles releasing the player at the last possibly moment which allows in turn the defensive line to set. I'd be intrested to see the ablett pentalty again on our own line to see who was holding who down which led to a try.

* Coley/Glass jaw, The probable Hubcap winners have carried these two chumps for the season, neither make big breaks or big tackles and share a minute number of braincells between them.

Next season bodes well for wigan after their recent signings, I was kinda hoping Leeds would be a team to be fearfull of for years to come. As stated above, does loyalty come before sucess?

Ablett's arm was caught between Tomkins legs and expertly held there by young Samuel to win the penalty. Something he's been adept at all season. Another favourite trick of his is rolling over when grounded, trapping a tacklers arm in the process then pretending to struggle to get up to play the ball. Can't knock him for it mind, it seems to fool most of the officials most of the time.

In the end Ganson appeared to suggest that Ablett having ended up with his arm where it was being reason enough for the penalty going against him.