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| I'd go
1. Briscoe
2. Fox
3. Eastmond
4. Smith
5. Hall
6. Sinfield
7. McGuire
8. Morley
9. Moore
10. Peacock
11. Ellis
12. Burgess
13. O'Loughlin
14. Roby
15. Graham
16. Carvell
17. Westwood
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| Perhaps Burrow is about to have an operation and this has ruled him out? I can't see any other reason to leave him out. The same applies to Diskin who's had a far more impressive 2nd half of the season than Moore.
As others have said the backline looks pretty woeful in comparison with Australia and New Zealand. How come we can't produce decent backs anymore? It wasn't that long ago when we could boast the likes of Robinson, Offiah, Schofield, Lydon, Ford, Gill, Hanley etc.
Given the complete lack of any proven talent in the backline I'd go with the following 17 but the backline is wafer thin. I'd soon play Andy Gilder at centre than Paul Sykes.
Smith
Fox
Shenton
Eastmond
Hall
McGuire
Tompkins
Graham
Moore
Peacock
Ellis
O'Loughlin
Sinfield
Bridge
Burgess
Morley
Roby
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| Quote Bullseye="Bullseye"I'd soon play Andy Gilder at centre than Paul Sykes. '"
Cheers Sam for choosing me as the ultimate definition of mediocrity. 
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| If eastmond is playing in the centres he against the aussies he will be walked over, he'll be targetted thats for sure.
Would Gilmour not have been a better option at centre? or even Wilkin or O'louglin?
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| I can only guess the plan may be to play McGuire at 7?
Burrow is unlucky, Sykes must have a lock-up full of rabbits feet or some extremely incriminating photos of a a few people.
Still you can't please all the people ...etc.
Forwards look very solid though.
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| Quote Kirk="Kirk"If eastmond is playing in the centres he against the aussies he will be walked over, he'll be targetted thats for sure.
Would Gilmour not have been a better option at centre? or even Wilkin or O'louglin?'"
The more I think about it the more I think that Ellis will be playing in the centres, with Eastmond possibly at wing.
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| How on earth can Tony Smith leave Burrow out? Eastmond and Myler may be the future halfbacks for England but have done nothing during the second half of the season playing halfback to prove their worth. Eastmond didn't stand up for Saints at 7 when Long was put, Myler hasn't been seen for 6 months since he knew he was joining Warrington and Tomkins has had a great season but showed against Saints in the play-offs that in a pressure game he came up well short, made poor desicions and failed to make any impact like he had in previous games. Myler has got in because of he's joined Wire under Smith, he's certainly not their on merrit. Wire have got 5 players there and finished about 10th so he hasn't gone on form and Ryan Atkins would have made it had he not been injured. It a disgrace IMO. What's Roby done this season? Paul Sykes and England International sounds like the start of a joke.
Against France go with the likes of Tomkins, Myler/Eastmond but against NZ/Aussies it should of been McGuire and Burrow or even Sinfield and McGuire at 6 &7 with O'Loughlin at 13.
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| Quote LS14 RHINO="LS14 RHINO"against NZ/Aussies it should of been McGuire and Burrow or even Sinfield and McGuire at 6 &7 with O'Loughlin at 13.'"
Who is to say it won't be?
Agree with your comments about Sykes by the way, but Tompkins and Eastmond have had decent seasons and it will be interesting to see if thy can live up to the hype in an international match
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Quote Hollywood Harrigan="Hollywood Harrigan"The 24-man England squad for the Gillette Four Nations is:
Chris Bridge (Warrington Wolves, Waterhead)
Sam Burgess (Bradford Bulls, Dewsbury Moor)
Shaun Briscoe (Hull Kingston Rovers, Wigan St Patricks)
Garreth Carvell (Warrington Wolves, Stanningley)
Eorl Crabtree (Huddersfield Giants, Huddersfield YMCA)
Kyle Eastmond (St Helens, Oldham St Annes)
Gareth Ellis (Wests Tigers, Castleford Lock Lane)
Peter Fox (Hull Kingston Rovers, York Acorn)
James Graham (St Helens, Blackbrook)
Ryan Hall (Leeds, Oulton Raiders)
Danny McGuire (Leeds, East Leeds)
Scott Moore (Huddersfield Giants, Blackbrook)
Adrian Morley (Warrington Wolves, Eccles)
Richard Myler (Salford City Reds, Halton West Bank)
Sean O’Loughlin (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)
Jamie Peacock (Leeds, Stanningley Rangers) (captain)
James Roby (St Helens, Blackbrook)
Michael Shenton (Castleford Tigers, Upton)
Kevin Sinfield (Leeds, Waterhead)
Lee Smith (Leeds, Drighlington)
Paul Sykes (Bradford Bulls, Thornhill Trojans)
Sam Tomkins (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)
Ben Westwood (Warrington Wolves, Normanton Knights)
Jon Wilkin (St Helens, East Hull)
www.englandrl.co.uk/article.php?id=15657
No Burrow, still a mix in there though. Good to see how the new faces get on.'"
Burrow should be in for Myler.
1. Briscoe
2. Fox
3. Smith
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Tomkins
8. Graham
9. Moore
10. Peacock
11. Burgess
12. Ellis
13. Sinfield
14. Roby
15. Morley
16. Eastmond
17. Westwood
18. Bridge
19. Sykes
20. Myler
21. Carvell
22. O'Loughlin
23. Crabtree
24. Wilkin
Those squad players are so average, it's unbelievable the likes of Sykes and Bridge have been picked over Burrow.
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Quote Hollywood Harrigan="Hollywood Harrigan"The 24-man England squad for the Gillette Four Nations is:
Chris Bridge (Warrington Wolves, Waterhead)
Sam Burgess (Bradford Bulls, Dewsbury Moor)
Shaun Briscoe (Hull Kingston Rovers, Wigan St Patricks)
Garreth Carvell (Warrington Wolves, Stanningley)
Eorl Crabtree (Huddersfield Giants, Huddersfield YMCA)
Kyle Eastmond (St Helens, Oldham St Annes)
Gareth Ellis (Wests Tigers, Castleford Lock Lane)
Peter Fox (Hull Kingston Rovers, York Acorn)
James Graham (St Helens, Blackbrook)
Ryan Hall (Leeds, Oulton Raiders)
Danny McGuire (Leeds, East Leeds)
Scott Moore (Huddersfield Giants, Blackbrook)
Adrian Morley (Warrington Wolves, Eccles)
Richard Myler (Salford City Reds, Halton West Bank)
Sean O’Loughlin (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)
Jamie Peacock (Leeds, Stanningley Rangers) (captain)
James Roby (St Helens, Blackbrook)
Michael Shenton (Castleford Tigers, Upton)
Kevin Sinfield (Leeds, Waterhead)
Lee Smith (Leeds, Drighlington)
Paul Sykes (Bradford Bulls, Thornhill Trojans)
Sam Tomkins (Wigan Warriors, Wigan St Patricks)
Ben Westwood (Warrington Wolves, Normanton Knights)
Jon Wilkin (St Helens, East Hull)
www.englandrl.co.uk/article.php?id=15657
No Burrow, still a mix in there though. Good to see how the new faces get on.'"
Burrow should be in for Myler.
1. Briscoe
2. Fox
3. Smith
4. Shenton
5. Hall
6. McGuire
7. Tomkins
8. Graham
9. Moore
10. Peacock
11. Burgess
12. Ellis
13. Sinfield
14. Roby
15. Morley
16. Eastmond
17. Westwood
18. Bridge
19. Sykes
20. Myler
21. Carvell
22. O'Loughlin
23. Crabtree
24. Wilkin
Those squad players are so average, it's unbelievable the likes of Sykes and Bridge have been picked over Burrow.
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| Quote Kirk="Kirk" Not to mention decision making, passing and leadership.'"
Decision making = McGuire
Passing = Sinfield
Leadership = JP
Well well, Leeds are going to be the bones of the side.
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| It should be:-
1- Briscoe/Smith
2- Owen
3- Smith/Gleeson
4- Senior
5- Hall
6- Tomkins
7- Brough/Burrow
8- Morley
9- Moore
10- Peacock
11- Ellis
12- Burgess
13- O'Loughlin
14- Carvell
15- Crabtree
16- Graham
17- Roby
I would play 3 props at the same time with 2 second rows to compensate for young Tomkins.
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