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Quote: Ferdy "Think Lunt has this season and another 3 contracted to hudds'"


Correct.

Huddersfield had to move him on to create cap space for Moore. If they decide to retain Moore beyond the end of this season I would expect Lunt to be told he can seek another club, much like Leeds did with Pitts.

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Quote: Andy Gilder "Correct.

Huddersfield had to move him on to create cap space for Moore. If they decide to retain Moore beyond the end of this season I would expect Lunt to be told he can seek another club, much like Leeds did with Pitts.'"


Wrong.

Lunt wants to go to oz to be with his brothers + unhappy getting low minutes behind Robbo when he plays + unhappy being 3rd behind Tommy Lee who is a much better defender and has a passing game better suited to the way the Giants play.

If you watched the Giants vs Leeds U20s game you will know exactly what i mean about poor defence.

Clearly moving a high paid player on loan out of our 20s opens up a place and cap space. far more cap space than will be required to sign Moore. Today we have extended the contract of one of our best young forwards.

If you give Lunt 40 mins a game he will give it a go , which is good for Leeds (in attack) and it should help him get a basic contract in oz in 2013. He can then be with his brothers.

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Cripesginger, you are in the know!

Lunt did have to be moved to bring in Moore & the fact of the matter is, Lunt did not want to play for Huddersfield. FULL STOP

he's now got 6 months at leeds whilst finalising final details to hopefully go to Oz next year. Good luck to him

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McShane has been told not to expect any game time this season and to look for a loan deal (possibly in Aus).

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Quote: Neville Bartos "McShane has been told not to expect any game time this season and to look for a loan deal (possibly in Aus).'"


Care to validate this statement with some fact, quote or official link?

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Quote: El Diablo "In fairness you can never guarantee the results of a mentoring programme. The mentored may not have the ability or the will to listen. Not saying that's the case here, but if it hadn't worked out, hindsight is a very powerful tool.'"


Hindsight is a very powerful tool, true. But I made those exact points prior to the signing of Buderus only to be contradicted by a number of posters who were convinced of the positive influence he would have on his understudies.
Just to reiterate, this isn't an anti-Buderus tirade - I was actually very impressed by him as a player.

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Quote: Clearwing "Hindsight is a very powerful tool, true. But I made those exact points prior to the signing of Buderus only to be contradicted by a number of posters who were convinced of the positive influence he would have on his understudies.
Just to reiterate, this isn't an anti-Buderus tirade - I was actually very impressed by him as a player.'"



Yet you still haven't taken into account the fact that Buderus left a year early than planned.

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Quote: Gotcha "Hindsight is a very powerful tool, true. But I made those exact points prior to the signing of Buderus only to be contradicted by a number of posters who were convinced of the positive influence he would have on his understudies.
Just to reiterate, this isn't an anti-Buderus tirade - I was actually very impressed by him as a player.'"



Yet you still haven't taken into account the fact that Buderus left a year early than planned.'"

Didn't he sign an extension, or was he always on a 4 year deal?

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Quote: Gotcha "Yet you still haven't taken into account the fact that Buderus left a year early than planned.'"


That surely should have been more of a concern for those who stressed the important role in developing young players that he was going to play. I always questioned whether it was nailed on that he'd have a positive effect in that respect.

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Quote: Clearwing "That surely should have been more of a concern for those who stressed the important role in developing young players that he was going to play. I always questioned whether it was nailed on that he'd have a positive effect in that respect.'"


How do you know it hasn't?

Nobody can possibly know what McShane or Hood would have turned out like without Buderus at the club.

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Quote: Clearwing "That surely should have been more of a concern for those who stressed the important role in developing young players that he was going to play. I always questioned whether it was nailed on that he'd have a positive effect in that respect.'"



Why should it be?

You don't do A-Levels before doing GCSE, there is a learning curve. If that curve included the missed year, then it would have an effect.

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Quote: Clearwing "That surely should have been more of a concern for those who stressed the important role in developing young players that he was going to play. I always questioned whether it was nailed on that he'd have a positive effect in that respect.'"


Likewise you cannot blame the teacher if he cannot get all his thick pupils into university if you get what I mean?

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Lunt in to cover for Burrow double fracture of cheekbone according to BBC! icon_biggrin.gifEPRESSED:

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Quote: The Eagle "Didn't he sign an extension, or was he always on a 4 year deal?'"


Initially Buderus signed a two year deal covering the 2009 and 2010 seasons:

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-2174415

The contract extension was announced as part of the now infamous 'Magnificent Seven' press release:

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 6390759.jp

It appeared at the time that no-one really knew how long the extension was for but it subsequently transpired it covered the 2011 and 2012 seasons.
Quote: The Eagle "Didn't he sign an extension, or was he always on a 4 year deal?'"


Initially Buderus signed a two year deal covering the 2009 and 2010 seasons:

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/s ... -1-2174415

The contract extension was announced as part of the now infamous 'Magnificent Seven' press release:

www.yorkshireeveningpost.co.uk/l ... 6390759.jp

It appeared at the time that no-one really knew how long the extension was for but it subsequently transpired it covered the 2011 and 2012 seasons.


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I've never bought into the mentoring theory TBH. Giving players a few tips at training is not the same as working with them intensively one-on-one, and is no substitute for playing experience. I'm sure Buderus did what he could to help McShane and Hood, but in the end I doubt it amounted to much. He did after all have a day job.

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