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| Quote rhinoms="rhinoms":lol:
C'mon yer not serious???????'"
Perfectly serious. There is a quota set by the RFL (it's set for a reason) which Leeds have never broken in the past despite the availability of loopholes.
Quote rhinoms="rhinoms"The difference with our situation imo is that English and acadamy grown players have been offered deals to stay and a chance to prove themselves whereas at "other" clubs their homegrown lot were as good as ditched!'"
There is no difference when clubs are exceeding the quotas laid down by the RFL.
Quote rhinoms="rhinoms"Plus we have situations crop up ala Danny Allan where the players in front of them sre just too good for them to get in the team.'"
Which isn't helped by overfilling on quota players.
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"Perfectly serious. There is a quota set by the RFL (it's set for a reason) which Leeds have never broken in the past despite the availability of loopholes.'"
And that quota is six non federation trained players, with the exception of those players already in the UK at the time the rule was brought in.
So at the moment, Leeds are only exercising the right to take up half of their quota. That's not "exploiting a loophole", it's abiding by the same rules - as set down by the RFL - as everyone else in the competition.
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"And that quota is six non federation trained players, with the exception of those players already in the UK at the time the rule was brought in.
So at the moment, Leeds are only exercising the right to take up half of their quota. That's not "exploiting a loophole", it's abiding by the same rules - as set down by the RFL - as everyone else in the competition.'" The original rules didn't have the exception. That was brought in when players threatened to challenge the rules in the courts IIRC. It's a mute point, IMO, whether that is a loophole.
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| Quote gulfcoast_highwayman="gulfcoast_highwayman"If Stains hadn't made so many late attempts to win the award, that would have scooped 'Funniest Moment Of The Season' by a mile.'"
I thought the last tackle play Saints invented and unleashed on Bradford(?) when they lost to them earlier in the season was my funniest moment.
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| Quote DHM="DHM"I thought the last tackle play Saints invented and unleashed on Bradford(?) when they lost to them earlier in the season was my funniest moment.'"
It's between that and Sheriffe(?) trying to save a goal line drop out and conceding a try instead V Warrington(?) at Odsal.
I still think Sherriffe wins.
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"It's between that and Sheriffe(?) trying to save a goal line drop out and conceding a try instead V Warrington(?) at Odsal.
I still think Sherriffe wins.'"
I agree mate that was funny as fook!! 
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| Quote Andy Gilder="Andy Gilder"And that quota is six non federation trained players, with the exception of those players already in the UK at the time the rule was brought in.'"
And that was the intention of the RFL making the change, to allow an increase in overseas trained players registered in the SL?
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"It's between that and Sheriffe(?) trying to save a goal line drop out and conceding a try instead V Warrington(?) at Odsal.
I still think Sherriffe wins.'"
I missed that. That must have been pretty funny.
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| Quote DHM="DHM"I missed that. That must have been pretty funny.'"
It was the weekend before the Saints fifth and last move. Just as the engravers were getting to work on the correct spelling of Ricky.... then Potter comes up with that.
No other contenders that I can think of at the moment.
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"And that was the intention of the RFL making the change, to allow an increase in overseas trained players registered in the SL?'"
True, but given how quickly they backtracked, it seems that they were attempting to enforce something which was illegal.
If the RFL decided that no SL could have more than 2 black players in a team, but revoked it on threat of legal action, would you hold the same opinion?
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| Quote leicester_rhino="leicester_rhino"True, but given how quickly they backtracked, it seems that they were attempting to enforce something which was illegal.
If the RFL decided that no SL could have more than 2 black players in a team, but revoked it on threat of legal action, would you hold the same opinion?'"
The league doesn't have a quota on black players does it?
The quotas on overseas trained players is being reduced year on year and for good reason. You only have to look at Tony Smith's choices for outside backs to see why SL clubs need forcibly weening off their addiction.
That individual players (probably fearing for their own livelihood) challenged the RFL is a shame IMO because the result of that selfish action granted immunity to every overseas trained player already contracted in this country and IIRC that remains even if they change clubs over here.
The nett result being an even longer wait for British eligible players to increase our chances on the International stage.
That Leeds are now making themselves part of the problem saddens me.
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| Quote tvoc="tvoc"The league doesn't have a quota on black players does it?
The quotas on overseas trained players is being reduced year on year and for good reason. You only have to look at Tony Smith's choices for outside backs to see why SL clubs need forcibly weening off their addiction.
That individual players (probably fearing for their own livelihood) challenged the RFL is a shame IMO because the result of that selfish action granted immunity to every overseas trained player already contracted in this country and IIRC that remains even if they change clubs over here.
The nett result being an even longer wait for British eligible players to increase our chances on the International stage.
That Leeds are now making themselves part of the problem saddens me.'"
Personally I do agree with you on this issue, and am merely playing devils advocate. Unfortunatley where people's livelyhood is at stake, the governing body has to be very careful.
My opinion is that Leeds are not finding loop holes, like paying wives as cleaners etc, but playing to the rules, no matter how those rules were arrived at.
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