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Think Ackers gives us a couple of things we've been lacking. Sinfield beginning to look assured, he's made a ton of progress in a short time. Cam Smith looked far better trying to do less with the ball and more in the way of spotting weaknesses to run at. Bit of fizz throughout when shifting the ball second half.

Take liberties and a decent championship side will do what lots of sides did to us last year.

Mix of good and bad really, much as you'd expect pre season..

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More impressed with the youngsters yesterday. Like the look of Nicholson-Watton and the McCormack's look natural rugby players.

McDonnell was strong again. Very concerning with Gannon.

Who came on at full back for Miller?

Miller looked unfit and a little slow yesterday which was a little concerning. Hopefully, that is sorted before the season begins.

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I don’t think Miller is as quick as some think - he’s steppy and quick off the mark but I’m not sure he has outright pace.

I did really like him Webb-ing up into the line though; once he gets acclimatised he’ll do well for us in attack.

I actually think Momirovski could be the under-the-radar signing this season, he is oretty quick and played first grade NRL most of career.

I really do like the McCormack brothers - Fergus looks like our next 6. Jack Smith has a little Joel Moon about him, rangy centre and he’s still behind Max Simpson.

Think we’ll go okay this year; need some luck with injuries. Can see Hudson breaking into the team on the bench.

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Quote: KaeruJim "I don’t think Miller is as quick as some think - he’s steppy and quick off the mark but I’m not sure he has outright pace.

I did really like him Webb-ing up into the line though; once he gets acclimatised he’ll do well for us in attack.

I actually think Momirovski could be the under-the-radar signing this season, he is oretty quick and played first grade NRL most of career.

I really do like the McCormack brothers - Fergus looks like our next 6. Jack Smith has a little Joel Moon about him, rangy centre and he’s still behind Max Simpson.

Think we’ll go okay this year; need some luck with injuries. Can see Hudson breaking into the team on the bench.'"

Miller doesn't have French/Field type length of the pitch type pace. That was evident from the games I've watched in the NRL. What he does have is explosive speed of the mark and the ability to maintain it when changing direction. He'll do fine when he settles into the system. The challenge for Smith is to create that system. So much pressure on Smith at the start of the season. If I were him I'd be canning the "play what you see" stuff when it comes to short kick offs and dropouts. Whether it works or not, it makes us look mentally soft. Best saved for real moments of desperation.

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Agreed AC, the stuff in the first half yesterday echoed last season and preseason in particular, it just demonstrates a desire to cut corners. The game will in the main always be based on earning the right to play yet this sloppy attitude the thinking that can be reinvented has always coincided with our worst RS performances.

I want to see the short kickoffs disposed of as even if it comes off 50% of the time and for all the practice you get at them in game without pressure you chuck away the opportunity to practice the things that will actually matter come the start of the season.


The experiment needs to end otherwise his tenure will.

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Miller may not be the fastest sprinter in the league but he looked remarkably slower than in the footage I've seen of him.

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Miller will be fine personally i saw enough to show he has some skills that we've been lacking.

It was his first run out in how many months?

He looked to be trying too hard in the first half to impress.

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I'll wait until 6 games into the season to look st how the new guys are doing.
Will take time to get match fit and with a pretty much new spine it's going to need time to gel.

RS has to cut out the nonsense though, it's not worked right all last season and it won't.

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Miller won’t get faster with match practice - it’s as Clueso said he has acceleration but not outright top speed I think. He does have skill but my main interest is in his D.

Can’t wait to see a full first team play together.

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Quote: rugbyleague88 "More impressed with the youngsters yesterday. Like the look of Nicholson-Watton and the McCormack's look natural rugby players.

McDonnell was strong again. Very concerning with Gannon.

Who came on at full back for Miller?

Miller looked unfit and a little slow yesterday which was a little concerning. Hopefully, that is sorted before the season begins.'"


Only one game so can’t read too much into anything.
Alfie Edgell came on for Miller. Miller showed some real skill but overplayed and of more concern did not
Look in very good condition to me. Gannon going off with a head knock was the other downer.
On the plus side I thought Frawley did well and I like the
Look of Littlewood and Fergus McCormack reminded me very much in how he carries
Himself of a top player from yesteryear. I won’t name him. Be interesting to see how Jack Smith develops. As others have said hopefully we finally stop these slow starts where we look slack.

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Quote: Sir Gregory ParsloeP "Only one game so can’t read too much into anything.
Alfie Edgell came on for Miller. Miller showed some real skill but overplayed and of more concern did not
Look in very good condition to me. Gannon going off with a head knock was the other downer.
On the plus side I thought Frawley did well and I like the
Look of Littlewood and Fergus McCormack reminded me very much in how he carries
Himself of a top player from yesteryear. I won’t name him. Be interesting to see how Jack Smith develops. As others have said hopefully we finally stop these slow starts where we look slack.'"

Ha. Reminded me of one too, although not a Leeds player. Used to play for the Pies.

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Quote: ArthurClues "Ha. Reminded me of one too, although not a Leeds player. Used to play for the Pies.'"


Snap , don’t want to type his name as he still makes me feel sick.

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I'm surprised McGillvary has joined Wakey to be honest. Always rated him. I can see Wakey come straight back up I think.

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I also would not sign Kershaw. In addition to Olpherts with 1 year left we have Roberts, Simpson, lumb, jack smith and we could play Martin at centre and stick momo on wing if needed.

Plus ned Mc.

Kershaw is not good enough and we have plenty coming through the pipe. Rohan needs to stop wasting cap on selling platers.

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It’s a big “if”, but if Hudson can come through as a reserve prop and be effective for us there, we aren’t in too bad shape as a squad.

We have changed almost half of the first grade team in one off-season, we’re going to have to see how they perform and which gaps remain. We need to provide pathways for talented younger players especially in the outside backs.

Really interested to see who steps up in 2024 and who we end up letting go.

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